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Latest Davide Cironi Video - GTV6

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I love Davide's videos and he has a great passion for cars that aren't always the most popular..

 
#4 ·
@alfalfa53 I might be wrong but I believe his chicken coop to race track series are sponsored by the shops/suppliers he features. So it is a great opportunity for these shops to get visibility. The amount of work to get that rust repaired just had me shaking my head! A shop around here would just tell me to pound sand or just take a mortgage on my house, lol.

I mean I would really love to have my name laser etched on my pistons too but..

But that's what makes the series great, I can't wait to see it go and helps me break out of the "ugh why does everything go wrong with my projects, I don't feel like working on it right now.."
 
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Thank you DOM, and yes that rust repair alone would push anybody toward bankruptcy here in the U.S. I don't understand Italian the the subtitles were a little too fast for me but i did gather that most of these talented people are promoting their work and getting their expertise advertised on this program. Costs not withstanding it is encouraging to see the GTVs getting the credit they deserve and i should be glad a little rust i have on my original California car is nothing compared to some of the European counter parts in harsher climates. Cheers......
 
#8 ·
Wonderful car but the driveshaft couplings are going to continue to be a problem, need upgrading. And he's already mentioned gearbox noises so that needs upgrading too, i.e. sold centre plate or replace gearbox with another brands

Part of the problem with these cars and why best to leave them standard ... but not impossible to put a gearbox on the back of the engine
Pete
 
#9 ·
I see your point Pete and i agree, the drive train on these cars also need to be upgraded if you up the engine capacity and horse power. The original gear box and drive shaft are not up to par especially the way he is driving it like a rally car 😊
 
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Yes I think he did say something about the couplings but didn't fully understand. I have also read that it is the centre plate (not sure of the correct term) that is the main weak point in these transaxles and making one out of steel improves their power handling ability apparently.

Please note I do not hate these transaxles cars as some think, just that you need to be aware of their weaknesses, just like the Alfa 156 chews through tyres and has rev counter voltage control issues, leading to battery draining.

But gee that engine sure sounded mighty good :eek:
Pete
 
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BTW i like this steering hub for my MOMO wheel. Anybody knows what it is and where i can get one?? Also i have seen drive shaft couplings on these cars come apart even with a stock enging. I have to ask my mechanic if he could fabricate a metal one as mentioned here. Cheers
 
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#14 ·
The entire car is too stiff and too low. In the video he says he's not tracking the car (or so he claims), but on the track testing at the end you can see it bouncing around. The engine seems magnificent but, IMHO, he ruined the suspension. Unless he's going to race it, the GTV6 is better suited being softer and a true GT car.
 
#18 ·
I agree the car is to stiff maybe some spring adjustments might dial it out. I don't think the car is to low, it's the redesigned lower sump pan made to suite the 24v engines oil pump pickup and the exhaust engine pipes which were an afterthought. You could tell by the head scratching as they were checking the bend of the down pipes that everything in the engine area is way to low for street use. Even if it is used as a track car only it will need some sort of sump guard to protect that vulnerable and expensive lower sump pan in case of an off.
 
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Did anyone else notice the tyre sizes on the NTM rims? I spotted 205/45R16 on the front which won't help with the sump clearance. It's about 23mm smaller in diameter than standard. The hours put in by the body shop must have been huuuuuge!
 
#26 ·
Car will likely never be driven again; but there is a great car in there with sensible tyres and suspension rates. Assuming driveshaft and gearbox issues are resolved.

Would have been just as good with a 3 ltr 2 valve engine. That amazing engine is just going to wear everything else out
Pete
 
#27 ·
A part 2 video with a driveline and transaxle rebuild and then a suspension and chassis tune would complete the project.
Davide's car will always be a track car. You can't firm up the spring rates and change suspension geometry and minimise the ground clearance without compromising the comfort and practicality that is needed in a road car, or have I missed something in what he was trying to achieve with his renovation. Driving a hard riding noisy road car might be fun for a dash in the hills but a weekend drive in the country with a friend would be a different story altogether. Alfetta GT 's were always designed as soft Grand Tourer's, but with a set of Koni's, better brake pads and new rear muffler made for a comfortable car to run through the twisty back roads, stop for a meal and a night in a room with a view, then a run down the highway back home. Davide's car will be trailered to the track driven till the drive shaft or diff breaks then towed home, In saying that it would be great fun driving the "monster" as he called it. I didn't have sponsor's money to create a GTV6 to my liking so I spent my own money and it's not a monster. It's a freshly painted 3.0 with Alfa75 ratio's and an LSD, Koni yellows and a butterfly valve in the exhaust . Maybe I'm just getting old and soft.