[Zagato_Olaf]

FWIW, very commendable effort Olaf and others. At the same time, IMO you want to make sure that replicas are not reified as real cars on this thread. So the chassis # should be accompanied by a source listing and include period hx - that's really the only way to tell a real car, especially, as there is the issue of works cars (most of them) and a few privateer cars, some of them built elsewhere w/ the proper parts available from Autodelta.

Hello Alleggerita,

Thank you for your comment. And you are right. We want to make sure that all the chassisnumbers mentioned in this thread are 'the real thing'. That is why I will update the first post in this thread every time when new data and sources are mentioned. So please supply information if you think you can add something to the known data. It will help us differentiate between GTAm's that could be genuine and chassisnumbers that pose questionmarks.

Ciao! Olaf

 

[Takis]

Chassis number 1531042, unknown owner to me, I think she was auctioned a few years ago.
Takis.

 

[Takis]

Chassis number 1531042, continues......
Takis.

 

[Takis]

Chassis number 1531230, according to the book Alleggerita by T,Adriaensens, she belongs to Ruffinoni, I also think she was auctioned too, perhaps someone can provide more information.
Takis.

 

[Takis]

Chassis number 1531230 continues......
Takis.

 

[Takis]

Unknown chassis number,
Takis.

 

[Takis]

Unknown chassis number.
Takis.

 

[Takis]

Unknown chassis number.
Takis.

 

[Zagato_Olaf]

Hello Takis,

Thank you for posting the pictures and your info! The last series of photographs is from #1532346.

Ciao! Olaf

 

[South Africa]

Hello Takis and Olaf,

I agree the last two photographs are of 153 2346. That looks like the 'time' the car was at MPR Racing in Chessington, London when it arrived from Portugal via France etc.

 

[Takis]

The following pictures are from a photographic archive I keep, the chassis numbers are unknown to me, Olaf has put a great effort on finding genuine GTAms chassis numbers so we can add a picture on each chassis number or we will be able to tell if we are dealing with a genuine or a replica.
Takis.

 

[Takis]

Some more ............
Takis.

 

[Takis]

Some more .....
Takis.

 

[Zagato_Olaf]

Hello Takis,

Thank you for the pictures!
When I am at home in two days, I will check the pictures with the data of the GTAm's in my database.
I did check the dutch Ministry of Transport and learned something about the two cars with a Dutch licenseplate. They are 73-34-XT (listed as a 2000 GTV that was imported and sold to the first owner on the 5th of June 1973) and 77-19-PE (listed as a 1750 GTV that was imported and sold to the first owner on the 6th of October 1970).
The red car wit the 'Alfa Romeo Van Asselt' add on the left front fender is a Dutch car also. This picture was taken in 2003 at the Zandvoort circuit during 'Spettacolo Sportivo', the Alfa Romeo gathering of the Dutch Alfa Romeo Owners Club (www.alfaclub.nl).

Ciao, Olaf

 

[han]

Good day all

The Van Asselt car is a replica car with some org and some aftermarket parts.
When van Asselt went bankrupt the car was sold as a replica on a auction.

Han

 

[davbert]

fantastic pic takis

thanks for posting

db

 

[South Africa]

Hello Han,

This 'post' is a little more focussed - i.e. to those GTAm's raced in Southern Africa.

Find attached some photographs of a front suspension from a 'South African' GTAm apparaently sold to a person in the Netherlands. Do you know who they were sold to and on which car (if any) these 'bits' ended up on?

 

[han]

Yes I know those parts, those picture were taken by me, I owned them at one time and they are now owend by someone who is going to use them on a replica Gtam.

I was told the parts were off a gta 1300 but that makes no differance because both used the same.


Han

 

[Berlinista]

Ha!

The grey one, 73-34-XT is my old car, almost in all respects a GTam but a fake nonetheless. I sold it back in something like '02.
(traded it in for a Berlina) Thoruoghly rotten, but for example genuine GTam fenders etc.

The Van Asselt (bob vd Sluis) car: fake.
The Olaf Hoel car: fake.
The rest no idea...

 

[Zagato_Olaf]

Ha!

The grey one, 73-34-XT is my old car, almost in all respects a GTam but a fake nonetheless. I sold it back in something like '02.
(traded it in for a Berlina) Thoruoghly rotten, but for example genuine GTam fenders etc.

The Van Asselt (bob vd Sluis) car: fake.
The Olaf Hoel car: fake.
The rest no idea...

Hello Rik,

Good to hear from you! So your car was 73-34-XT. Can you tell us a little bit more about it? You say it had real GTAm fenders, how can we tell real from imitation or aftermarket in your opinion? Is it the material only or also other things?

And can you tell us more about the 'Van Asselt' replica? The same goes for the 77-19-PE/Olaf Hoel car?

Ciao, Olaf