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South African Alfa GT's

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#1 ·
Hi all,

Can any of you say whether the SA Alfa GT 1300 Junior and 1750 GTV are of the same or similar value to the Italian examples?

Should I avoid the SA cars?

I've been offered a SA GT Junior (RHD) and the body looks in better condition that many of the European examples I've seen.

A while back I passed on a 66 stepfront 1300 junior because it was so rotten.. I'd have been hard pressed to know the full extent of the rot..

Any advice or opinions greatly received.

Many thanks Nick
 
#4 ·
I think some locations in South Africa aren't as 'dry' as some would have us believe. ;)

However, all things being equal I think condition trumps all - Eg a good ZA car is worth more than a bad UK car.

The problem I have seen on ZA cars is that they can be prone to 'economic repairs' rather than 'the best repairs'. No slight on anyone just that I have seen plenty of instances where body shops have used lots of filler to make a car look really nice but horrible under the paint, rather than use replacement panels etc.
That may also be the case in a lot of UK cars too - but my reservation with ZA cars is not physically being able to see it (unless of course its been imported and available for inspection).

So if its in the UK and looks good after thorough inspection then buy it. Any perceived 'lesser value' is IMHO minimal and outstripped by potential savings in repairing a UK rotter :)
 
#3 · (Edited)
Can you compare the value of a RHD SA built car with a LHD Italian built one in similar condition? I feel it's very hard to do so fairly, regardless of the number built of each model. If you live in a LHD country then inevitably a RHD car will have limited appeal and that will effect value. But condition and originality will have more influence.

With RHD cars it's also important to recognise that the market for them breaks into two parts: the British delivered ones, and the rest. Why? Rust, pure and simple. Cars delivered in dryer climates like Southern Africa and Australia tend to be looked on more favourably than the equivalent British car, at least when original and unrestored. Of course there are many well restored UK delivered cars but that's a different conversation.
 
#2 · (Edited)
Hi all,
Can any of you say whether the SA Alfa GT 1300 Junior and 1750 GTV are of the same or similar value to the Italian examples?
Many thanks Nick
Hi Nick,
Fewer RHD versions of the cars were made and being further from the factory, so maybe even fewer survived as a proportion than the LHD models for a number of reasons as mentioned previously.
Assuming SA cars tend to be RHD so there are fewer in 2019 compared to LHD cars I think.
So now I'm thinking RHD cars for 1300GTJ: smooth nose and 1750GTV are may be more valuable than the LHD equivalents...?

Which one to choose RHD 1300GTJ: smooth nose or RHD 1750GTV.
RHD smooth nose cars
1970 : GTJ 1300, made 726
1971 : GTJ 1300, made 1186
1972 : GTJ 1300, made 340
RHD smooth nose cars
1968 : GTV 1750, made 203
1969 : GTV 1750, made 1454
1970 : GTV 1750, made 912
1971 : GTV 1750, made 989
1972 : GTV 1750, made 0
These are all based on Fusi's lists which are known to have some typos/errors. Better to get the factory build sheet so you know exactly when the car was built.

So the RHD 1972 GTJ 1300 was the rarest with only 340 made (only one RHD 1972 GTJ 1300 is listed AR 1296169, on the register https://www.classicalfaromeoregistry.com/type-105-giulias/gt) while for the 1968: GTV 1750 only 203 were made and 12 are listed on the register.

Cheers Steve