[alfa 33]

On page 2 you have pics showing an orange Bar. What is exactly ? is it a lower strut bar or a sway bar ?

If so from were did you buy it (who makes them ) ?

 

[budweiser_sud]

It's actually nothing more than the standard front antiroll bar, blasted and powder coated

~Benjamin

On page 2 you have pics showing an orange Bar. What is exactly ? is it a lower strut bar or a sway bar ?

If so from were did you buy it (who makes them ) ?

 

[budweiser_sud]

Another bump!

Finished the trolley mount that bolts onto the front suspension and rear gearbox mount. Now to clear up the workshop, drop the car to the ground and take it outside for a good clean! Will bring my camera next time I'm at the workshop and post more progress here shortly

~Benjamin

 

[budweiser_sud]

Well finally, after spending 2 hours cleaning up the crap left by the garage door in my shop (I share this place with another chap, his staff just dump building material everywhere) I finished installing the front trolley and wheeled it outside for a good clean. First time its seen sunshine since it was moved there from the paint shop

There's the trolley frame - should fit my 'sud when the 33 is finished and the 'sud is ready to be stripped down

Engine bay - bring on the wiring loom!

Nice to have the shop clean again

More pics tomorrow!

~Benjamin

 

[Storm_X]

oh very nice and clean.
mabye i might see it out in the car park one day when i drive past.

 

[budweiser_sud]

Easter weekend update:

-dismantled front struts, removed springs, and steering ball joints (they come off with a bang!)
-(nervously) cut/drilled struts ready to take new Koni yellow struts
-removed steering ball joints from steering rack arms

So now I have a milk crate of bits ready to drop off the the blaster/powder coater... more pics soon!

~Benjamin

 

[budweiser_sud]

Have received my front strut/suspension components back from the powder coater and a little shopping spree later and I'm ready to reassemble everything better than new.

I've also removed the calipers off the driveshaft assemblies and I'm looking at how I'm going to fit the pair of 4 pot Brembos - they are off a GTV or 156. I guess the first thing I need is the correct size brake disc - Fiat Coupe 20V discs appear to be suitable as they have the right stud pattern and fit the 33 hubs straight on and (apparently) the right diameter (the Coupe has the same calipers as the GTV). I reckon this is a worthy mod, as not only are they a more efficient 4 piston unit, but they are at least half the weight of the originals! Wheels are another issue - I doubt these will fit under 15" rims - and the 17" rims I want are close to $700 each + tyres, yeeouch.

That said, if anyone here has successfully installed this calipers on a 16v 33, please get in touch as I would like to confirm dimensions if possible.

Hopefully back in the workshop tomorrow, will take some more pics if I get there.

~Benjamin

 

[patanga]

Keen to hear how the Brembo 4 spot & Fiat rotor fitment goes. Any chance of a few photo's long the way... Great pics of the 33 resto btw... Thanks....Would love the workspace you have available...

 

[budweiser_sud]

Yup, promise to upload some more photos later today

Well the workshop space is the result of 5+ years of working very long hours in my own business - and even then I don't own the whole space - I had to partner with someone else to afford it. It is in a group of 10 units and most of the other's are car enthusiasts as well, but driving the likes of 911's, hotted up Monaro's, Jags etc so it puts my lowly 33 into perspective!

~Benjamin

 

[patanga]

Brake upgrade

I was considering putting alloy V8 Commodore callipers and Magna rotors on to my 33 as I understand they are a direct bolt on with only the rotor needing to be redrilled... Must admit though that the Brembo 4 spots would be a nice name to have behind the wheels... Cheers

 

[budweiser_sud]

Well I know its been done - I reckon I've seen a 16v project from Sweden, Norway, or Denmark where someone has done the conversion. I really don't want to do Comodore callipers - yes the increase in surface area is there, but I think the Magna discs also need to be modified. Using Fiat Coupe discs means they fit without any mods.

If the calliper sits far enough away from the original mount on the larger disc, there should be enough room for a bracket to connect the calliper to the hub - there has to be enough meat in the bracket for it to be strong enough though, hence the need for it to be located about 10-20mm from the hub. I'm confident I can come up with a mock up bracket made from timber, and then autocad the dimensions and have a machine shop create the billets. If successful, I'll consider offering them to BB members for the conversion.

 

[budweiser_sud]

A little research done on the Brembo catalogue: Brembo | Aftermarket Catalogue

Original 33 16v front disc:

Original Alfa 155 Q4 front disc:

Original Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo front disc:

I'm fairly certain my calipers are from an Alfa GTV 3L/24V - these cars were fitted with 305mm discs as per the Fiat Coupe Turbo 20V. The Alfa GTV discs were 5x98 PCD though - hence the reason for the Fiat Coupe discs. The 155 Q4 discs will also fit, but the diameter is smaller, and I'm not sure what calipers the 155 used. Does anyone know if the 155 Q4 used the same front calipers as the Fiat Coupe, as they are both from around the same era?

To sum up diameters:
Alfa 33: 239mm
Alfa 155:284mm
Fiat Coupe: 305mm

The big question will be if the 305mm disc and caliper will fit inside my Ronal A1 15" rims.... *maybe*.... at a guess the inside rim is 14.5" = 368.3mm, less 305mm for the disc leaves a gap of 31.65mm between the disc and the rim - somewhere between a bees dick and a poofteenth for the caliper, yeouch!

More soon...

~Benjamin

 

[patanga]

Brembo upgrade

Hi Bud Weiser.. Thanks for the drawings... keen to see how you go... By the way it you posted the 305mm Fiat rotor drawings twice.. Could you repost with the original 33 drawing spec. Thanks again.

 

[budweiser_sud]

Ok, hit refresh for the correct drawings

Hmmm, also just realised that the Fiat Coupe 305mm discs are actually 6mm thicker than the stock 33 and Alfa 155 discs...

 

[budweiser_sud]

Progress and pics! Sorry for the wait people... it took 2 months to get all these parts blasted/coated/plated etc - such is the joy of waiting for various businesses to do work for you

The springs I have fitted are a bit of a gamble, they are from a series 2 33 so I think they may be too low - I won't know until the engine is reinstalled, new wheels are fitted and the car is back on the ground. The important thing is that the that springs are correctly seated even though they have no load, which does happen on these cars if the springs aren't correct.

Overall I'm pretty happy how these struts turned out - now to start dismantling the rear to build the temporary frame so I can clean up underneath with the high pressure hot water cleaner

~Benjamin

 

[77SudTi]

That is awesome!! Nothing more can be said!! The strut top looks amazing!! Cant wait to see the res of the front end installed!!

 

[budweiser_sud]

Hehe, previously with the original shocks/springs you could push down the whole assembly by hadn really easily. With the Konis wound all the way up and the new springs, she don't budge hardly a centimeter when you push it by hand now! I suspect I'll be turning sharp corners almost completely FLAT!

~Benjamin (now with extra motivation!)

 

[fly33boxer]

Nice work Ben, yea those strut tops work a treat, just have to sort out my knock rattle =/ think i've got it sorted. As soon as i do ill let you know of the fix. And thats not too low...This is!! Hehe

 

[budweiser_sud]

Lookin' a bit dirty Michael!!!

~Benjamin

Nice work Ben, yea those strut tops work a treat, just have to sort out my knock rattle =/ think i've got it sorted. As soon as i do ill let you know of the fix. And thats not too low...This is!! Hehe

 

[Storm_X]

hay ben good work

what calipers are they in the back ground there?? also did you get your self a pressure cleaner ?