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Nipples!!

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#1 ·
:eek: Oops...Err, I mean the vacuum fittings on my Spider's intake plenum. In my haste to strip down the plenum for powder coating I diligently noted the positioning of the four small-diameter vacuum hoses. See photo.

HOWEVER, I didn't pay attention to the differences in those 4 "nipples" and which one went where. See next photo.

Does anyone have easy access to mid-late 80s L-Jet plenum that they could reference for me? Note the differences in length and diameters. IMO the critical vacuum signals are probably the vacuum sensor from the plenum's rear and the fuel pressure regulator on the front end. Don't know if they should be the big IDs or what? Help.

Thanks!
 
#6 ·
Are there outward appearances (looking at them installed, but with just the hoses off) that would differentiate them from one another? I'm willing to take a picture with my hoses removed (tomorrow morning) if you could tell from a picture... and any odd description of each I could give. :)
 
#9 · (Edited)
The fat one goes in the center of the cluster of 3 (vapor seperator). The tiniest holed skinny one goes above that (fuel pressure regulator), and the other 2 are interchangeable... That's from my visiual inspection of mine. I took pictures, but there's not a sd card in the camera... If I can find the cable for the camera, I'll still try to get them up... Oh, and your plenum and throttle body look awsome! How'd you get it all so nice and shiney?
 
#12 ·
A Huge Thanks...

...to Kenny. Just what I needed. This BB is great! My pieces/parts are shiny due to single stage chrome powder coating, I had my cam cover, plenum, throttle body, intake manifold, and thermostat housing all done. While not show car quality due to poor surface prep (my fault), the results look many times better than what I started with---I just hope it holds up. Thanks again.

The bottom line is- it really dosen't matter which nipple goes where, all the hoses at this location on the intake have the same amount of vacuum on them.
Duke, I respectfuly disagree partially. Yes the vacuum for all 4 ports is equal. For the sensor & regulator they both use static vacuum not a dymanic flow--the differences in the orifice size dampen changes in the vacuum signal over time which may make a difference. In the case of the separator & vapor cannister, there is an actual mass flow which is restricted (or not) by the the nipples orifice. (at least this is what I think).
 
#13 ·
While wearing my engineer's hat- the change in flow would be so small that it's really not going to matter were you attached the nipples. I took my manifold off last summer to replace hoses and clean it with a wire brush to remove at least one layer of crud. When I replaced the nipples- I had the same question, ran around for a week, looked at my manual to see if they were in their correct location only to find they were not. Replaced them according to the manual- no difference. I'm talking about the location of the nipples with appropriate diameter hoses only.

I can't fault anyone for wanting to take the time/effort to restore/renew/maintain these vehicles. I wish my car were as clean as yours... :)