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#41 ·
Only 810 Kg

My Series 1 Sud Ti, which has a 16v motor, weighs 938Kg with half a tank of gas.

It does have a roll cage, but that's about the only substantial weight addition. It has no bumpers, and very much lighter headlights and indicators etc. It has much lighter than standard wheels. It has no heater or associated plumbing.

They must have weighed the original Sud Ti protoype before they finished it...:D

Chris
 
#44 ·
That's crazy! I would have thought an alfasud would have got lighter with time :p

Seriously though, it's hard to believe that the figures would be that far off. Or that a rollcage could weigh that much!

Either way 900kg is still light..
 
#45 ·
I've often wondered that. It may be that it's just a dry weight, with no spare or tools.

If you take the 938Kg that my car weighed and subtract 50Kg for the cage, 20Kg for the difference between a 16v motor and a 1200 (my 16v has light bits on it...), 20Kg for the half tank of gas, 5Kg for engine oil, 4Kg for gearbox oil, 1 Kg for brake fluid, and 7 Kg for coolant, you get 831 Kg. Take off (say) 12Kg for the spare wheel etc, and another 1 Kg for the tools and the answer is 818Kg.

For a car that won't go anywhere.

Interesting, innit?:confused:
 
#46 ·
I think you're on to it there in terms of the dry weight thing - no liquids (even the vital ones) or other "incedentals" makes for an unusually light car. Back in the day, car manufacturers tended towards under- or over-exaggeration, depending on what looked best, though I'm sure that's not the case now-a-days...

And things are often heavier than you think. My 164 weighed 2140kg when on a weighbridge the other day. Now it was towing a trailer full of rusty and broken sud parts, but that was still quite chunky.
 
#50 ·
Is the manifold from a carb?
Does the alternator still fit? (tipped over to the cars left).
Did you make the crankpulley yourself?

Here's my solution, using a 164 ts servo pulley (outside the original) and a m45 from a Merc
 

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#51 ·
I have an SC14 supercharger and 8v injection gear including inlet manifold if anyone is interested in the stuff; I don't think i'll be using it after all. $400 plus postage.
 
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#53 ·
Sud#1, that manifold is very impressive. It doesn't look like you will be able to use an intercooler so I would probably add water injection. It looks like you are set up for about 11psi, but I am not sure because I am guessing at the pulley ratios and engine displacement.

jol, I like your setup to. I am partial to the remote mount systems because they are easy to intercool. It looks like you plan to have some serious boost, but I can't see how you are going to get it too the throttle. Obviously you have a plan for that!

Greg Gordon,
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#54 ·
jol, that remote supercharger mount set up is very creative! Having to refabricate the whole intake manifold is probably the number one reason why many have failed at supercharging the Alfa boxer engine. Will you be installing a tensioner of some sort?

~Benjamin
 
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Greg Gordon said:
jol, I like your setup to. I am partial to the remote mount systems because they are easy to intercool. It looks like you plan to have some serious boost, but I can't see how you are going to get it too the throttle. Obviously you have a plan for that!

Greg Gordon,
hiperformancestore.com
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Hey it was your verde's that started it :D The intake is flipped in the picture, I'll fab some tubes pointing straight forward and into an air/air intercooler (moving down the radiator to make it clear). Or making an air/water setup where the AFM originally sits (using megasquirt). Check the position here:
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budweiser_sud said:
jol, that remote supercharger mount set up is very creative! Having to refabricate the whole intake manifold is probably the number one reason why many have failed at supercharging the Alfa boxer engine. Will you be installing a tensioner of some sort?

~Benjamin
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Just above the camgear is another spacer to mount another cambelt tensioner, just as the original one in the picture.
 
#56 ·
Greg Gordon said:
Sud#1, that manifold is very impressive. It doesn't look like you will be able to use an intercooler so I would probably add water injection. It looks like you are set up for about 11psi, but I am not sure because I am guessing at the pulley ratios and engine displacement.

jol, I like your setup to. I am partial to the remote mount systems because they are easy to intercool. It looks like you plan to have some serious boost, but I can't see how you are going to get it too the throttle. Obviously you have a plan for that!

Greg Gordon,
hiperformancestore.com
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Hi Greg,
It is still possible to use a intercooler of a Nissan Terrano 2.7TD (even bigger then the mini). Will mount this on the oil filter side and make a smal scoop on the bonnet. But i have no picture's for that yet already mounted in the car.
The car needs a lot of attention i.e. rust 1.5ti 1979

Arnold
 
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