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#1 ·
I came across a 86 spider veloce and I was looking for some advice. The car has been sitting for two years.

I am assuming the engine is not seized but the owner stated it quit running so he parked it. It is parked inside a building and looks to be rust free eastern Tennessee car.

What should I look for that my be an achilles heel?

Sad that the car just sits with no one to enjoy it with the top down.

I want to make an offer to purchase but am worried about how much.
 
#2 ·
It's hard to put a price on a non-running car, but the S3 Spiders (such as the 86 you are looking at) are not collector cars or even rare. I can't imagine paying more than about $2,000 for a non-runner, regardless of how good every thing else looks.
 
#3 ·
Hard to say without knowing how good everything else looks. There's a big difference between an immaculate car that isn't running, and a car that's fairly rough but rust free.

If you can turn a wrench, a non-running car with good cosmetics can be a good bet. New motors are cheap if it comes down to that. If the cosmetics are poor, It's not going to be worth much more than scrap value.
 
#4 ·
if you are lucky it could be a 50 cent fuel relay fuse......
if you are unlucky...well....

take someone with you who knows these cars and have a look at it.

rust free (if that is really the case) and not running would interest me a helluva lot more than rusted out and running!
 
#5 ·
As the others have said, if perhaps indirectly, the big devil is RUST. Just run from a rusty car. The 1986 Spider is, in our parlance, an 'S3'. These were the most popular generation of Spiders in the U.S. The good news about the S3 is the engine uses Bosch electronic fuel injection, rather than the earlier Italian SPICA mechanical fuel injections. The Bosch can be pretty easily serviced by most mechanics familiar with 1980's foreign cars while the SPICA requires more specialized skills.

In most Spiders, of any generation, the second gear synchros are likely to be worn. This is not a show stopper, but is an annoyance until you learn to shift carefully. Others here can give you a figure for the cost of a transmission rebuild, if they're really bad. Engines are very stout, and fully rebuildable, but unless the car has a ton of miles it probably will be just fine as it is. However, the engine has been sitting for some years so wake it properly by putting in fresh fluids and turning it over before trying to get it to start. Oh, and in my personal experience, the water pumps don't like sitting for years, and you should probably expect it will need to be replaced fairly soon after you get the car up and running. Brakes may also have stuck calipers after sitting. To summarize, you'll probably drop a Grand or so into the car after belts, hoses, fluids, and getting it running and stopping. The other annoyer will be tracing bad grounds. This isn't a function of bad Italian design or electronics as it is the fact that 1986 was a long time ago.



If you're mechanically handy, Alfas aren't hard to work on, and parts are readily available. Comparatively speaking they aren't expensive.

Here's a good place to find out how to fix most everything:

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/spi...b/forums/spider-105-115-series-1966-1994/85437-spider-technical-faq-digest.html