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I'm back!! Several months ago i ended a thread due to repeated delays and total frustration. I ended up dumping the original parts and crew, regrouped, and am now back with a vengence

Since then i've assembled a team just as dedicated as i am to bring my spider to fruition. Not only that, but everything has gone up several notches. The beast that will be powering my spider now will be one very, very nasty..

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Brand-new, long-stroke, 3.2 litre 156/147 GTA crank and bearings
6 indivdual throttle boddies
GoTech PRO fully-programmable, stand-alone engine management system
Ross Racing aluminium-alloy pistons...ect

That power plant will result in just over 300 HP at the wheels!!

No bulges, extra vents or flares!! Nothing to give away all that power. Mated to that beast will be the 5 speed, 105 tranny - laced up with all new internals including close ratio and lightened gears (shafts, syncros..everything new) Then finishing off with the taller rear end of the automatic spider.

All the torque is going to be incredible and avalible down low in the rev range. Therefore, major body supports will be in place to keep it straight.

Thanks to "junglejustice" aka John at Glenwood Motors out of South Africa. The time you spent on the phone with me going over all my options, quick email replys and outstanding development of my engine was second to none. Respect bro

This bad boy is slated to be completed for spring 07. There will be more mods to come and I'll be updating this thread as more work develops for all interested.

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it won't shift....the gearbox...

no sychro rings........
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hold up...

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no sychro rings........
Guess what? The engine won't run either..."work in progress shots" bro!!

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Michael, thanks for the kind words - I do what I can....

Tis is going to be one sweet Spider; Tis the season....

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Spring 07??

My money is on Spring 08!!!!!!!!!
All the best ....V6GTJ.........

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good luck

be sure to post lots of photos! thats going to be a crazy convertible

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07 Brah!

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My money is on Spring 08!!!!!!!!!
All the best ....V6GTJ.........
V6GTJ,

I hear the joke brah! But i've been through so much crap over the last little while that nothing is going to stand in my way of getting this spider done for spring 2007. My team now is unstoppable:

John and Dawie at Glenwood Motors (over 30 years building/designing performance alfa race engines)

Joseph at Hamiltion Auto (who has successfully installed a twin turbo 3.0 V6 in a S3 - 2 years ago and not a glitch since)

and

Frank at Center Hill Paint and Body in Toronto (over 35 years of splashing n' moulding alfa's)

Trust me...It's on!!! Bleedat!

Thanks for the encouragement. All the best to you as well!!

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Rings Of Fire!!!

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be sure to post lots of photos! thats going to be a crazy convertible
87 Sprint,

Thanks for the encouragement as well. Good luck to you as well on your project!
I'll post what I can as more work continues. Until then, here are some more pics to drool over just as I did. Just check out the steel ring fire-seal setup that Dawie pioneered many moons agoWhoa

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Ohhhhh YES!!

I'm subscribed to this thread now. Cant wait for the next post.

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Count me in - I've always wondered what the esteemed Mr. van Rensburg and his band of elves could bring to life given a full head of steam - now we shall see!

Still - shoulda gone w/ megasquirt. It is the paradigm of the future.

Oh well, Go-tech will work, I guess.

And that engine is SICK

How does the fire-seal work?

Randy Lee

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1978 Sport Sedan - "Cecilia", a rustfree Alfetta
1990 Mondial T Cabrio - Engine major service, climate control overhaul, and interior tune up still to go - Short is on it!!
1958 Giullietta Sprint. "G.Sprint" No holds barred. 3.0 Liter 12 Valve V6 and Verde transaxle just to get warmed up!
1976 Alfetta GT. Twin 45 Dellortos. Alfetta maintainence drug while Cecilla gets restored.
1978 Alfetta GT. Ex Keith Martin, and getting a nice set of Euro Bumpers along with the rest of the good parts off the '76.
ON HOLD 196x Lancia Flaminia Sedan - name and the rest TBD.

Ex:
79 Spt Sdn. "Griswold" and never-driven '74 Spider sold to Harry Riley
74 Spider "Isabel" traded for "Cecilia" Thanks Ric!
(Look at Isabel now:
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Randy! I still owe you a phone call - me thinks...? No? When are you coming up, or is that off now...?

Any way, learned a great myself the last few years.... It is all about processing speed! Drove 3 cars on this trip with the new 44mhz processor GoTech Pro-X box - WOW! What a difference....

It is all about processing speed - how fast can that little man inside of the ECU yell-out throttle position orders from the TPS AND, as the accelerator is depressed even more progressively, how fast can that same worker repeat updates!? Then, how fast can the other little guys passing out fuel and spark respond and as the demand from said first little guy increases progressively, how fast can they react - are they only just now passing out orders/fuel/spark in response to old requests or are they keeping up with what's happening all around them....?

Multiply those orders coming in from the Lambda, water temp, air temp, boost, rpm, load, vacuum etc and by the way - will the MS do this every .5 rpm...?

That is where the smoothness comes in. Our GTA runs as if it is the stock electronics are in there! Smooth, without a glitch and the throttle response is unbelievable... It MAKES power! Period.

Many of the other systems out there still run 4mhz, 8mhz and 16mhz processors.... What does the MS run?

MS models until recently DO NOT handle spark - only fuel - you have to run a separate ignition module - one can only attempt to compare that with a fully integrated programmable fuel AND spark stand-alone system. The differences show up in the drive...

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I'm subscribed to this thread now. Cant wait for the next post.
Thanks Simon! Doin' my best for the beast! Feels real good to breathe again on a new thread. Welcome to my spider's "darkside" That previous engine just didn't have the pimp factor these Glenwood ones do...

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Count me in - I've always wondered what the esteemed Mr. van Rensburg and his band of elves could bring to life given a full head of steam - now we shall see!

Still - shoulda gone w/ megasquirt. It is the paradigm of the future.

Oh well, Go-tech will work, I guess.

And that engine is SICK

How does the fire-seal work?
Randy,

Don't want to turn this thread into another mega squirt vs the world thread so i'll let John handel that one

Once explained to me...Go-Tech felt like the better one for THIS engine...

Word on the street in South Africa is that Dawie has an entire colony of midget elves about 6 inches tall busily working away on a few monsters at any given time ....John is just one of the taller ones...

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Megasquirtwise, I'm done for here and now. Promise.

So, when she's all pimpomatic, will we be seeing you at the Concorso?????

(5 ?s means you must say "OK" )

I just want to hear the sound of the trumpets.

Plus see you shame a Lambo or two...

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1978 Sport Sedan - "Cecilia", a rustfree Alfetta
1990 Mondial T Cabrio - Engine major service, climate control overhaul, and interior tune up still to go - Short is on it!!
1958 Giullietta Sprint. "G.Sprint" No holds barred. 3.0 Liter 12 Valve V6 and Verde transaxle just to get warmed up!
1976 Alfetta GT. Twin 45 Dellortos. Alfetta maintainence drug while Cecilla gets restored.
1978 Alfetta GT. Ex Keith Martin, and getting a nice set of Euro Bumpers along with the rest of the good parts off the '76.
ON HOLD 196x Lancia Flaminia Sedan - name and the rest TBD.

Ex:
79 Spt Sdn. "Griswold" and never-driven '74 Spider sold to Harry Riley
74 Spider "Isabel" traded for "Cecilia" Thanks Ric!
(Look at Isabel now:
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