Wheels for a Super
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What size and offset/backspacing is suitable for a Super (aftermarket wheels) ? Car will be only slightly lowered, if at all.
If you stick with a 15" diameter, and say 6" width, what size tyre do you choose (195/65-15 ?). Is 195 too much tyre for a 1600 Super ?
I'm not after extra wide rubber, it's just that most aftermarke wheels I like are only available in 15/6" minimum width.
Main concerns are tyres fouling the body, and having too much tyre to steer/drive.
What size and offset/backspacing is suitable for a Super (aftermarket wheels) ? Car will be only slightly lowered, if at all.
If you stick with a 15" diameter, and say 6" width, what size tyre do you choose (195/65-15 ?). Is 195 too much tyre for a 1600 Super ?
I'm not after extra wide rubber, it's just that most aftermarke wheels I like are only available in 15/6" minimum width.
Main concerns are tyres fouling the body, and having too much tyre to steer/drive.
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I too am currently restoring a '67 Giulia Super. I've been looking at pics of diff. Supers and have found that in Europe most use Minilites or Panasport. I found the following site: www.photo.net/photos/svante.johansson
Under photos of cars ( he must like Alfas) , there is the most beautiful Giulia Super. It's in a marron/red color with what look like star Cromodoras (insert in black) outer rim polished. I have been trying to get info. on car w/ no luck. Does anyone know the Owner? I would love to know type of wheel on car.
Under photos of cars ( he must like Alfas) , there is the most beautiful Giulia Super. It's in a marron/red color with what look like star Cromodoras (insert in black) outer rim polished. I have been trying to get info. on car w/ no luck. Does anyone know the Owner? I would love to know type of wheel on car.
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I wouldnt put anything skinnier than 195 on a 6" rim and I doubt tyre places would either. There are a few 14x6 around, Performance Superlites come in that size with a wide range of PCDs and offset.
As for the 'too much tyre' problem - I think its all a matter of personal choice. My GTV had 205s, my Berlina has 185s and to be honest I dont really give a rats hole either way, except perhaps that the 205s tramlined a little bit. I think in a GSuper 195 would be the max optimum.
So beatle, now you have to tell us.. why all the questions about a Giulia Super?
As for the 'too much tyre' problem - I think its all a matter of personal choice. My GTV had 205s, my Berlina has 185s and to be honest I dont really give a rats hole either way, except perhaps that the 205s tramlined a little bit. I think in a GSuper 195 would be the max optimum.
So beatle, now you have to tell us.. why all the questions about a Giulia Super?
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Just so we are clear on this. How do you measure "40mm OFFSET" ?
I assume you mean that the hub mounting surface of the wheel is 40mm outboard from the plane of the centre of the wheel rim ?
Different folks have different interpretations.
I assume you mean that the hub mounting surface of the wheel is 40mm outboard from the plane of the centre of the wheel rim ?
Different folks have different interpretations.
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The 105 sedan body needs higher offset numbers in the back than the coupe, IIRC. I've got the Heinbrand TZ replicas, which are 15x5.5 and *I'm told* are ET41. They fit with a 5.00 x 15 Dunlop bias-ply vintage race tire. A knowledgable supplier suggested that 15x6 ET38 Panasports would fit, too.
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Stuart Jr. and I are putting together an order for 16x6 Panasports with a 40mm offset. I was planning on running 185/50's on a very lowered car. A 185/60 will also fit, and a 195/60 0r 50 should fit with the 40mm offset, especially if the cars not slammed. If you are interested in a set @$850 (approx.), contact Stuart at Alfa Performance Connection, 949-588-0500
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Oops, I see your on the other side of the planet. Well , you can have Panasport make you a set, it just takes 6 or 8 months
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Beatle,
Yes on your assumption of offset.
Wow, the photos of Svante Johansson are amazing. The car photos are average but the others, nice.
To Chi Si Dici, The wheels on the red Ti appear to be the Revolution type from UK. They have been around since the early 70's. Do a search as they are still manufactured.
Here is one of the Ti's at his photo site. This is the lowest Ti Iv'e ever seen.
Yes on your assumption of offset.
Wow, the photos of Svante Johansson are amazing. The car photos are average but the others, nice.
To Chi Si Dici, The wheels on the red Ti appear to be the Revolution type from UK. They have been around since the early 70's. Do a search as they are still manufactured.
Here is one of the Ti's at his photo site. This is the lowest Ti Iv'e ever seen.
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I've seen tables with Alfa factory specs which reflect 45mm offset as the standard issue for the Giulia sedans.
I'm interested in running a 14x6 inch rim with 165R-14 tires. The available wheels are the Daytona replicas with 35mm offset, as well as Panasports (good to hear they are 38mm offset), and my preference of the Alfaholics Strada wheels. I've seen the Stradas on a variety of Giulias, but do not know the offset.
I've seen some comments that the 165 series tire is too narrow to run on a 6 inch wide wheel. Is this true? My first choice has been the Strada set up, but both the Daytonas and Panasports look great, too. Tough choice.
As soon as I digest an engine rebuild (choke), I hope to get after the wheels, and a few cosmetic items. It's a never ending story.
I've seen tables with Alfa factory specs which reflect 45mm offset as the standard issue for the Giulia sedans.
I'm interested in running a 14x6 inch rim with 165R-14 tires. The available wheels are the Daytona replicas with 35mm offset, as well as Panasports (good to hear they are 38mm offset), and my preference of the Alfaholics Strada wheels. I've seen the Stradas on a variety of Giulias, but do not know the offset.
I've seen some comments that the 165 series tire is too narrow to run on a 6 inch wide wheel. Is this true? My first choice has been the Strada set up, but both the Daytonas and Panasports look great, too. Tough choice.
As soon as I digest an engine rebuild (choke), I hope to get after the wheels, and a few cosmetic items. It's a never ending story.
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I have Campagnolo America's on my 1300 Super, 6x14 ET ( offset) 28 mm, this with 185-70-14 tyres is the maximum you can have without modifieing
the rear fenders, rear axles have to be just in the middle
the rear fenders, rear axles have to be just in the middle
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HI Mike, do you know what year spiders those wheels came off of? They measure 4 3/4" from the back of the bead to the mounting face, while other similar wheels measure 4 1/4". Justcallmefred has a set and we are looking for some others.
Incidentally, I called Tire Rack and asked what wheels they had that fit 4 X 105mm and they came up with several, however they are 15 X7inches, 42mm offset. Sounds a little wide for a Super rear fender tub. Still only $99 each, Worth a try??
Incidentally, I called Tire Rack and asked what wheels they had that fit 4 X 105mm and they came up with several, however they are 15 X7inches, 42mm offset. Sounds a little wide for a Super rear fender tub. Still only $99 each, Worth a try??
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A most outstanding wheel for Giulias!! On 185/70-14 tires.
A most outstanding wheel for Giulias!! On 185/70-14 tires.
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Dan,
I'm selling a set of 14 x 6 panasports with the correct offset for a super if you are still looking for wheels.
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Tire Rack shows recommended rim widths on the "Specs" page for each tire model they sell. They don't have anything in a 165/80-14 (same as 165R-14), but they do have a 165/80-15 (that's VW bug size). That tire is supposed to go onto 4" -5.5" width rims. 6 inches might be a bit of a stretch....
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Tire Rack shows recommended rim widths on the "Specs" page for each tire model they sell. They don't have anything in a 165/80-14 (same as 165R-14), but they do have a 165/80-15 (that's VW bug size). That tire is supposed to go onto 4" -5.5" width rims. 6 inches might be a bit of a stretch....
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Hi George,
I'm not sure as they were on the car when I bought it in '92. They look identical to the ones on my '84 Spider and say 14x6 on the outer rim. There were two manufacturers that made these wheels.
Hi Dan,
The 165/14 was standard size for Alfas using a 5 1/2 " rim from '69 until '78 or so. It is not a problem to stretch them the extra 1/2 inch. It actually reduces sidewall flex.
Also, I have seen "Spider wheels" used on several Supers with no problems.
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