[Zunige]

I thought it would be interesting to see what we (owners) would ask for our series 2, 3 or 4 Spiders, should we placed them for sale at this point in time. I purposely restricted the query to “modern” Spiders (1971 - 1994) like the ones sold in the U.S.A., because it is already generally accepted that the series 1 roundtails (1966 - 1969) achieved collectible status a few years ago. This doesn’t mean that those who have series 2, 3, or 4 Spiders in other countries should not vote on the poll. Please, do so. I’m merely trying to clarify that we are talking about the Spiders with the body style that Alfa was able to market for such a long run…

Part of the inspiration for this poll came from a few recent conversations (not with Alfa BB members) regarding low mileage series 3 Spiders, all in exceptional condition. What was curious in one case was the personal valuation by someone who collects vintage cars. While not an Alfista, this person has been around and owns some very valuable examples. His personal feeling was that the styling, with the Pininfarina provenance, the five star wheels, the overall look with the top up and down, the interior layout, the quality of the mechanics, and the ride, would compel him to spend up to $50k, if he were bidding for the car. He is not unaware of the prices that most Spiders go for, but he also made it clear that he had zero interest in anything other than the very rare #1 examples, and looking to correct minor flaws, or spending time to bring the car to a #1 condition were just out of the question. Of course, this is an affluent person, but I thought it was an interesting perspective.

I hope everyone enjoys the poll, and please be sure to vote twice for each Spider: once for the asking price and a second time for how you feel you would do money-wise.

One last note, so as to not leave out anyone who does not have a Spider (out of the poll that is, since everyone’s comments are always appreciated), once this thread has pretty much run its course, I’ll do a poll asking what we would actually pay for a series 2, 3, or 4 Spider. Comparing those results should be interesting, as there is no market without buyers!

Best regards,
Enrique

P.S. It’s always ok to “have a drink” while enjoying and commenting on Alfa topics… I’m not much of a drinker these days, but it’s a nice afternoon, and I may just reach for a Glenlivet or a Red Tail Ale!

 

[sjmst]

Ok, I'll bite.
I would ask at least 12,000 for mine, a 1991 (S4), Red, tan 60,000 miles.

I just bought it for 10. I put in new ball joints, brakes, tires, engine mounts, muffler, radio, and fixed a few things like recharging the a/c, and the interior lights.

I will be putting in a new shift boot soon and will give it a good detail. It has the spare, jack and kit. The engine is clean, the top almost as new, everything works, and it runs great.

On the downside, the driver's side Alcantara is a little worn and it could probably use some respray here and there for paint chips, etc.

So, seeing really low mile mint ones going for around 15,000, and taking off about 2,000-3,000 for mileage, paint and a new seat cover (to bring is to a virtual concourse condition) I arrive at 12.

I think any car I sell is worth what I ask, as I disclose everything I would want to know (which is everything) and the buyer of mine would get a good car..IF I were selling.

 

[Aghevli]

I believe in buying cars like Alfa Romeos because you love them. When I sold my GTV I got nowhere near the price of what I put into it. I just needed to move on to other things so it had to be done. The joy that I got out of that car when I was younger however was something money cannot not buy. So I never felt a loss in the price I got for the sale, only in the simple fact that I miss the car today.

 

[Bill]

100 BILLION dollars, Dr. Evil.

 

[lgbalfa]

i would take nothing less then 20k for mine since it is in excellent condition with extremely low miles. even though it is an automatic - there is a always a buyer for everything. no plans to sell though.

 

[ocduff]

I think I'd have to let the market determine what it is worth. S4, with nearly 80K on the clock, clear title (minus a fallen limb a few years back on the windshield). Overall, it's well maintained, and the paint is a 5 footer. No cracks in dash, no 2nd gear grind, interior leather is 6.5-10 condition. New headgasket, mounts, CD player, cold AC, fresh fluids, new brakes, new shift boots. Newer Pirelli's. All maintenance up to date. Great top and boot, 5-speed. No rust.

I paid $7300 3 years ago. Can't imagine it's worth more than that. It's a 16 year old car that is beginning to show "character". But I plan on keeping it until 150K, then rebuilding, replacing clutch, etc. That'll be 20 years from now, at this rate!

 

[Toptick]

My '86 Graduate (~75m Miles) is going to be for sale soon, and I would think that the number should be around $4,000 as is (minor body issues, no rust, grunchy transmission, and ripped drivers seat bottom). Perhaps $6,000 with the tranny fixed and the seat redone.

Anyone think I'm way off??

 

[fetta78]

Y'all must have a bunch of expensive cars!!
Most of the Spiders I see for sale are well under $10,000..........


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[Nicola]

Well, since you asked......

I'd sell my Jr. Zagato before I sell my Spider........
(And I'm planning to be buried in the Jr. Z.)

But, because we're on the subject... How much $$$ do you have????

 

[lgbalfa]

I thought it would be interesting to see what we (owners) would ask for our series 2, 3 or 4 Spiders, should we placed them for sale at this point in time. I purposely restricted the query to “modern” Spiders (1971 - 1994) like the ones sold in the U.S.A., because it is already generally accepted that the series 1 roundtails (1966 - 1969) achieved collectible status a few years ago. This doesn’t mean that those who have series 2, 3, or 4 Spiders in other countries should not vote on the poll. Please, do so. I’m merely trying to clarify that we are talking about the Spiders with the body style that Alfa was able to market for such a long run…

Part of the inspiration for this poll came from a few recent conversations (not with Alfa BB members) regarding low mileage series 3 Spiders, all in exceptional condition. What was curious in one case was the personal valuation by someone who collects vintage cars. While not an Alfista, this person has been around and owns some very valuable examples. His personal feeling was that the styling, with the Pininfarina provenance, the five star wheels, the overall look with the top up and down, the interior layout, the quality of the mechanics, and the ride, would compel him to spend up to $50k, if he were bidding for the car. He is not unaware of the prices that most Spiders go for, but he also made it clear that he had zero interest in anything other than the very rare #1 examples, and looking to correct minor flaws, or spending time to bring the car to a #1 condition were just out of the question. Of course, this is an affluent person, but I thought it was an interesting perspective.

I hope everyone enjoys the poll, and please be sure to vote twice for each Spider: once for the asking price and a second time for how you feel you would do money-wise.

One last note, so as to not leave out anyone who does not have a Spider (out of the poll that is, since everyone’s comments are always appreciated), once this thread has pretty much run its course, I’ll do a poll asking what we would actually pay for a series 2, 3, or 4 Spider. Comparing those results should be interesting, as there is no market without buyers!

Best regards,
Enrique

P.S. It’s always ok to “have a drink” while enjoying and commenting on Alfa topics… I’m not much of a drinker these days, but it’s a nice afternoon, and I may just reach for a Glenlivet or a Red Tail Ale!

why didnt you post this in the spider forum?

 

[Zunige]

why didnt you post this in the spider forum?

I know many may disagree, but I think that the Spider forum should be as the heading indicates, a "Technical Forum" and this isn't a technical topic... A lot of our fellow BBers do use the "New Posts" and the "Quick Links/Today's Posts" functions, so it should be no trouble for them to see this thread...

Best regards,

 

[rogerspeed]

I know many may disagree, but I think that the Spider forum should be as the heading indicates, a "Technical Forum" and this isn't a technical topic... A lot of our fellow BBers do use the "New Posts" and the "Quick Links/Today's Posts" functions, so it should be no trouble for them to see this thread...

Best regards,

I won't disagree, but now you're being technical!

 

[Zunige]

I won't disagree, but now you're being technical!

Yes, I guess you are right, ... but let's not get too technical or you're gonna make feel guilty about not starting this thread in the Spider forum,... and I don't want to have to ask Simon to move the thread!

Best regards,

 

[Bill77]

After all the hours I put into my Spider, it would take a lot of money to pry it from my cold dead hands.

Seeing as how nobody is trying to do that, the Spider remains in my garage.

 

[Seinista]

OK, convert the cash yourselves...
Friend had one of the best S4s in the country. Red/tan, new hood.
Head just done, new LSD. 80K kilometers.
NO rust ever (they rust here you know)
Wheels perfect. Condition just below concours.
Asked 12K euro's
Sold it six months later for 8500,-
Over here, it's a buyers market. plenty examples available.
(most of them grotty though, but first time buyers don't see the difference- as long as it's shiny, right?)
A Duetto in VGC will do around 30K euros.
Sellers market for those.
S3- worth nothing.
S2: 1600 worth nothing, 1750 expensive, 2000 depending on condition, up to 12000 for the very best.
Specialists will sell you a good, dependable but not perfect S4 for 15K euros.
So for an S4, what you want for it is not relevant, what the market will offer is.....

 

[jarrington]

Since most of us watch eBay like hawks, how about this - if you put your car on eBay with no reserve, what do you think it would go for?

I'd like to think mine would break $10k, but maybe $8k would be more likely.

-Jason

 

[Favali]

I know my car inside and out.....the good, the weak, and the yet-to-be-made-better-for-my-pleasure. I would ask somewhere between $12-$15k but that is my opinion of my mistress.
I do not expect to break even and did not purchase it with a view towards investment or similar.

Every year I go through the same two rituals: (1) Should I sell it and move to a hardtop; and (2) It's time for new wheels.
Nine years later, it remains under cover in my garage with the stock phone dial wheels.

Smitten.....

 

[msiert]

I have done some modifications to my S-4 but to say I have increase the value of it I don't know?

The other day my wife ask me what she should sell my Spider for if I died. I didn't know what to tell her other than not to sell it for less than $25,000 but in reality it may be worth less that a stock S-4 in the same condition $15,000.

I did tell her to advrtise it on the BB but not to sell it to anyone from Kentucky.

 

[lgbalfa]

I know my car inside and out.....the good, the weak, and the yet-to-be-made-better-for-my-pleasure. I would ask somewhere between $12-$15k but that is my opinion of my mistress.
I do not expect to break even and did not purchase it with a view towards investment or similar.

Every year I go through the same two rituals: (1) Should I sell it and move to a hardtop; and (2) It's time for new wheels.
Nine years later, it remains under cover in my garage with the stock phone dial wheels.

Smitten.....

vermont is still nice this time of the year - storage so early?

 

[eight-o-one]

I know my car inside and out.....the good, the weak, and the yet-to-be-made-better-for-my-pleasure. I would ask somewhere between $12-$15k but that is my opinion of my mistress.
I do not expect to break even and did not purchase it with a view towards investment or similar.

Every year I go through the same two rituals: (1) Should I sell it and move to a hardtop; and (2) It's time for new wheels.
Nine years later, it remains under cover in my garage with the stock phone dial wheels.

Smitten.....

Rob, Do what others have done [including myself]; keep the spider- JUST ADD
A COUPE AND/OR SEDAN..all og God's creatures need a mate. EVERYTHING
is better by twos...Ed K.