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Started the car for as short drive last Thursday. The smell of gas came up pretty quick and I found leaks at the rail line (right side). So, new line picked up and installed. I will do the left side just in case but not until I am ready to put car away for the season as I may just replace the lines from the filter as well. Went for a short drive yesterday. Nice, warm day with a good breeze. Warm enough to open the roof but not blazing hot. Car felt good A few teens (or young adults) did a double take after I left the spray wash. The squeak from my accessory tensioner bearing is getting annoying. The bearing is o.k. but I think the bushing (is there a bushing?) may be the issue as I feel a bit of wiggle and if I put a screwdriver against the body when idling the squeak disappears.
 

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Need help figuring out 164 bumpers! My runaround yesterday was to pick up parts for the 91 164L I recently purchased. Colours for the hood and RFender don't match but that's fine. The bumper is off of an "S" as it's got solid supports rather than the L's right-left louvres/vents. The centre area looks the same, and the heights between the two are the same at roughly 15" at the wraparound edges. I couldn't find any hard references in either the Service Manual or "Catalogo" parts doc on this site, so I'm a little confused as to what I picked up. I also noticed that there's a black shiny band along the top "row" (bottom pic). This is different than the "L". So what do I have? Note the vehicle is a Canadian model , V1 (?) w/12V V6. The current body cladding is charcoal grey, which matches the rest of the car (top pic in the example) and upper sections of the front/rear bumpers. I also gather from a re-mounting perspective they are identical, and I can transfer the fogs over to the new (used) bumper. Any issues with the minor differences in airflow? NOTE: No headlight sprayers on either, and no holes to fill. Thanks in advance.
 

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Sounds like you just got an earlier S bumper. Later ones have same inlet grills like the L bumper in picture. I don't see pix of S bumper but if it has a black tape stripe it came off a black S.
 

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Waxed the car yesterday. Brings out some shine but also accentuates some flaws in the finish, chips, etc. Today, I hope to r install the rear camera and fix a bad mounting point for the rear plastics (between left and right tail lights).
If time permits, remove the center console to look at the auto-shift gate frame as shifting to P is hanging up on something. I rebuilt this a few years back but the plastic frame had some cracks and something is likely giving way.
A question regarding hood struts: does anyone know the weight limit of the struts? I have bought 2 aftermarket units (24 inch) butt they are rated at 70lbs and that seems a bit much. I don't want to over stress the mounting points (if I can even adapt these struts...will let you know).
On another note: Here is a nice article on the 164, written a few years back. When the Poets Dreamed of Angels
 

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Sounds like you just got an earlier S bumper. Later ones have same inlet grills like the L bumper in picture. I don't see pix of S bumper but if it has a black tape stripe it came off a black S.
Thanks for the insight. The "L" bumper is the top portion of the pic, and the "S" bumper is the bottom half. I merged them together to show their differences. Although I do like the "grills" I'm OK with the "S" type bumper. I could always tear'em down and (re)rivet the bottom portion to keep it "L"-spec. We'll see.
 

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Another issue came up today with the 164L. Thinking that I had an exhaust leak at the catcon I went to two shops. One said they could replace the existing with a Walker, and the second indicated that the pipe leading into the resonator is pooched and catcon was fine. Hmmmm...parts for mid are available thru the US, along with 45% and shipping costs! So I'm going to go with a local guy here in Ontario (CAN) for custom fit piping between catcon and muffler. Should I put the resonator back in or just straight-pipe-it? It's already got the ANSA muffler. Any issues with back pressure, or lack of? HP won't change much, but I'm wary (marginally) about excessive noise.
 

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Just Ansa rear will be louder without center muffler but I would try just straight pipe from cat to rear Ansa pipe connector or add a straight through round cylinder muffler "glas-pak" in place of center resonator to mellow out sound.
 

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Just Ansa rear will be louder without center muffler but I would try just straight pipe from cat to rear Ansa pipe connector or add a straight through round cylinder muffler "glas-pak" in place of center resonator to mellow out sound.
Hmmm...if they can fit some sort of 'glass pack' in between without too much cost or work-effort, then this might be an option. I live in a rural area so don't want to upset the neighbours. Thx again!
 

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Update: Replaced existing "resonator" section with a straightthru piece between catcon and ANSA muffler. No discernible noise level change, and much quieter than B4 'fix'. Less than $100Cdn for the repairs. Phew! Next...replace hood, fender and front bumper before paint 'job'. On a roll..
 

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Yesterday, replaced a leaky fuel line from under the 85 Spider that almost turned my attached garage into a bomb overnight. This afternoon, pulled the radiator. It leaks at the top seam somewhere. I’ll drop it off Monday for repair. I should probably order new, replacement hoses.
 

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Had a fun drive in the wife's Milano across town to get my first haircut in months. Was getting pretty shaggy. Barber said that he was going to charge by the pound, lol. Once I got used to driving it as compared to the 164S, it was fun to toss it around on the city streets (BTW, saw zero sign of any problems with protestors in town such as some are saying are destroying the city, lol. Nothing but a local and weird block party going on up on Capitol Hill, the center of hippies, gays, wannabe amateur anarchists, funky restaurants, etc. Kind of a neat area, mainly for the good restaurants ((one of our favs is close by, along with the Ferrari/Maserati/Alfa dealership)). That unique Seattle area elected a true blue socialist from India who is usurping the legitimate protests for advancing her own tax agenda against Amazon and other big businesses, etc).

Anyway, was a pleasure to relive the joys of the Milano, which is a lighter, less powered, and more tossable vehicle than the 164 which I am much more used to. Put a few enthusiastic miles on it to warm the oil and get any condensation out (from sitting too much). Sounds so great (stock exhaust) when doubleclutching down through the gears. Actually reminded me of my old Mini, where in order to go fast, you just held the gas pedal down all the time, even in the turns (that thing could outcorner any other car I've driven by far).

Now to take the LS out for it's monthly thrash. Much more of a beast, esp on the highway. The Chevy SS won't see much at all until August, when we hope(!) to take our DC friends (he's the manager at Goddard SFC) on a week plus long tour of the Canadian Rockies which they have never seen, they being from Texas and Georgia originally, ie, flatlanders, lol. Just beautiful country, Canada. We just really hope Canada opens up the borders.
 
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After being in storage for a few months, I dug it out and went for a rip around the neighbourhood. 91 S, it’s a nice ride. Probably tackle the timing belt here in a couple weeks. I think I have what I need to get that done. I should just lay it out on the counter to make sure.
 

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Went for a short drive to loosen things up (in my head anyways). While diving along one country road, a bird flapped its way under my car. I saw it laying there in my rear view. After a hundred meters or so, I turned around to go back to see if I could save it, sucker that I am. I rolled down my window and noticed that it was still moving/twitching a bit...it could have been the breeze. So, I put on the hazards and unbuckled. Was just opening the door when an SUV came over the mild crest and finished the job...
The car ran fine. A bit of left-pull but I am running on new tires and have not had an alignment since replacing the rack (as I was on older tires and just did not want to align on those). The squeak from the S belt pulley is annoying and the exhaust is a bit loud for my tastes (Magnaflo). May pull off the bearing and holder this week, time permitting, to see if I can deal with the squeak. It's not the bearing but a slightly sloppy holder I think.
Also, on Friday, I pulled off the center console to look into the shifting to P issue. I though the gate had cracked again but it was a rough lever. A minute with a file and all is good. Also replaced my ear view camera. Doesn't look too intrusive. Feeding the leads through from under the latch mechanism and wiring to the reverse light socket. You also have to add a lead from the + connection to the stereo trip wire for the auto-switching feature (switches stereo display to rear camera when receiving 12v from the camera). This is a big help when backing out of tight spots. Forgive the sideways and upside down images...
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Your 164 picture does not show the rubber side down! I hate it when the camera does that.
 

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Yea. Edited before I post but for some reason, they posted upside down and I couldn't right them. Let's pretend I live ion the other side of the globe.
 

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Went to have the WO5 recall performed on my Giulia TI Q4, only to find that the Alfa dealer here in Albany has gone out of business.

Its like 70 miles to the next nearest dealership. Only a dealer can access the FCA computer required for this recall.
 

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Don't ya just hate it when that happens?
 

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Washed and dried BB1 and fired it right up after setting for 6 months. Took it for a drive to buy supplies for the summer ahead. Good to be back in Virginia Beach.
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