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When I got the 164’s (I bought two of them) I was putting 600 miles a week on them and did that for about four years. I used them like a tag team, when the black one came due for an oil change or any sort of maintenance I’d start driving the red one. They both still run great but I don’t use them much anymore. I should let them go (or at least the red one) but it’s got the Recaros. It’s like choosing to disown one of your sons over the other.

Aaargh!! :|
 

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When I got the 164’s (I bought two of them) I was putting 600 miles a week on them and did that for about four years. I used them like a tag team, when the black one came due for an oil change or any sort of maintenance I’d start driving the red one. They both still run great but I don’t use them much anymore. I should let them go (or at least the red one) but it’s got the Recaros. It’s like choosing to disown one of your sons over the other.

Aaargh!! :|
Yep, the Camaro was my daily driver, it got from 0 to 70k miles in 6 years. Then in the past 3 years I've barely put 3000 miles on it. Part of which was I was having some major cooling system gremlins that I didn't get around to fixing (started with the radiator failing, after which the water pump failed, and the temp sensor, and other things). Finally traced it to an oil cooler line that would only leak under higher pressures, and would then suck air in when you would slow down. So then you'd stop the car and hear loud gurgling coming form the overflow.

Now that I finally have it fixed I drove it to the train today, but thats only about 3/4 of a mile away.
 

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Been working lawn duty at daughters house while I waited on Lowes to deliver appliances. A/C in house now holding temp at 71 ao flooring guys in heaven today.

Took Joe a 164 thermostat at 7 am on way to rec ctr gym before lawn duty.

Off to Joe's now with BB4 to see if we can get his Greenie L ready for engine start.

trying to remember whose on first around here.
 

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Did my first project on the Alfa. More of a test run of Kiwi Shoe polish on my seats, sure enough it worked swimmingly. It is a bit streaky at the bottom but I am going to pull the seats and do it again anyway so I'm not worried, this was more of a proof of concept. For $8 its a miracle.

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This is the drivers seat, I'm not sure if this seat can be helped. The passenger seat is a little less bad but theres some weird stains and stuff like food stuck to it or something. I'm considering alternatives, maybe an aftermarket seat.



And heres a question, both seats work completely, however under the passenger seat there is a bunch of wire harness plugs that aren't connected to anything. Any idea what they are for?
 

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That seat will clean up and look good with some kiwi treatment. You may have a seat control module under seat that is not hooked up. Look for it stuffed into cut opening in carpet along front tunnel in between where front mounts bolted or stuffed into front of seat under leather.

If an early model maybe for car phone but that was usually under driver's seat.
 

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Yea. That seat's in good condition. Just needs the color. Mine was almost like that and did the Kiwi dye 7 years ago and it still looks good. Of course, I'm maintaining the seats, unlike the previous owner. The leather was very stiff, especially in the back seats, when I got the car, but with some TLC they're back to almost-like-new condition.
 

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Alfa 164 Repair - tested a broken ground wire repair procedure for 164 fuel pump

https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/8290392-post372.html

https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/8290394-post373.html
Repairing 164 tank cover fuel pump ground wire
I decided to proof (Alfa test) out a repair to a broken fuel pump ground wire inside the 60542711 steel Alfa 164 fuel tank cover.
I have run out of serviceable USA spec steel fuel tank covers as all my spares have the black ground wire broken off riveted in terminal lug.
Procedure
1. Remove potting compound around black ground wire terminal on top of cover
2. Drill out terminal rivet with small enough drill to prevent damaging wire terminal
3. .Remove terminal lug and salvage upper and lower “nylon” isolators from cover
4. Make new black ground wire with small eyelet terminal ends
5. Get a small machine screw, washer and nut assembly
6. Assemble screw and new wire with terminals on bottom isolator spacer
7. Add a #6 statoseal neoprene washer on screw
8. Insert screw through hole in tank cover and install larger upper teardrop shaped isolater, and add upper black ground wire terminal; washer and nut.
9. Tighten up nut on screw to hold wire terminals tight in isolators
10. Reseal the oval opening in upper isolator with sealant
 

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Nice job on the seats!! Yesterday/last evening was Alfa Sotto Stella or Alfas under the stars. Well, kinda as it's been an odd summer of rain and cooler than I remember temps but then again it is only mid July.

Italian touring is a mix of social one up manship and just getting together and being loud. One theme while parked in piazza was the requisite card board being placed under the cars in their usual leaky areas. This crowd isn't big in the underhood aspects and only one came up and that was mine to wiggle my coolant float wires so the light would shut off.

30 mile drive to the first stopping point for parking adventure and rinfresco. Gotta give it to the escorts who are on MC duty shutting down intersections and such and the locals are more than patient. So there were 52 cars and we wound up at a nice restaurant for a 5 course fish meal. Very nice. Wound up back home well past my bed time and relaxed. Some pics that caught my eye. Ciao, chris
 

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some more. Club directors 33 Wagon. I can't imagine the mileage total on this thing but its a rare one. More random shots. ciao, chris
 

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few more. Hopefully no repeat(s). Several of the folks were curious about the 164 as they never see them. Same with the gentleman's 90. I can't recall the last time I saw one and this was the first time I've seen this one. They were fascinated that an American loves the Alfas for some reason. They were also quite vocal about the attempt being made to re-establish Alfa in the US and most seemed to think within a model cycle or two, they will pull away. Most are quite aware of the following AROC has generated but few were familiar with this BB and many wrote the site addy down. ciao, chris
 

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yea that 159 is the 4 WD version. Lovely car. I had a black Saab. Never again a black car shall chris own. Ciao, chris

added: no I had not heard about Sergio as I don't follow that kinda news over here. I follow other stuff but refuse to get into it on this forum as this place is my "safe room"
 

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Thanks guys, I'm just gonna buy a bunch more Kiwi and pull the seats out and REALLY REALLY go over every square inch thoroughly. Thrilled with the results as is. My dad went inside came out 10 minutes later and was like holy crap. Sent pics to my cousin too marked as "my first project" she said my uncle would be very happy to see it. Thankfully no rips on either seat in front.

I think that harness could be the car phone mentioned, as both seats are fully functional (power, heat, etc).
 

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In case you thought Alfa Romeo had the market cornered on over-complication, this was yesterday working on my VW Golf Race car. We are changing the suspension setup a bit to eliminate bump steer and part of that involves removing the front swaybar permanently. Of course to remove the swaybar you need to drop the front subframe about 2 inches. So the hoist is holding the engine up while I unbolted the subframe, then I dropped it down, pulled the bar, and then raised it back into place.



I swapped in some stiffer springs as well, I have a pretty trick setup on this whole thing. Of course in swapping springs I found one of my struts has really weak rebound. After only 2 races. And of course while ST warranties their coil over kits for 5 years, racing is specifically excluded, they actually ask for your car registration to warranty it. I put it all back together with the new springs as is as I have a race in 4 weeks and I'm not 100% sure they can get me a replacement in time (they are slow, took a month to get my springs shipped from Germany). The track we will be at is mostly right hand turns so while it will be annoying we can deal with it.
 

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Well today i picked up some Mothers Back To Black so i could try and restore the dull looking trim on my 164, and the end results are amazing! Gives the car more depth and I'm satisfied with the results.
 

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Well, Alfa related today, my daughter took the 93L 5-SPEED out for the afternoon as she hadn't been able to drive a 5-speed since I sold Originale some years ago.

Her GF took video of her working the 5-speed through its paces. She was ECSTATIC to get to drive a 5-speed 164 again.

I am leaving for FL on Tuesday so ended the ebay ad for it for now.
 

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I topped up fluids in the red car. 5 speed down quite a bit, coolant a little, oil ok. It doesn't burn much at all. Brake fluid down again:( The tires are dry, no signs of leaks there. Clutch slave is dry as well. Best check the master clutch cylinder.
 

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I went out a few days ago to get some estimates on fixing the clearcoat problem on the '91 164S. Trunk lid needs repainting and some clearcoat separation above the right side door glass on the door frame.

First place I went to (ABRA, which I think is a national chain) said quote "We don't work on cars that old."

Second place, a local body shop gave me an estimate of $2,850, IF I remove all the trim and spoiler. $3850, if they do it. LOL! I asked how much to paint the whole car . . . $8000.

So, I tried a repair on a spot myself using Duplicolor Universal Black and clear coat that I had in the rattlecan box. The OEM paint has faded some so the match is not quite good enough, but it hasn't dried enough to do any blending with the buffer. I'm sending away to Tower Paint for some AR601 black and 2k clearcoat rattlecan and am going to give it a go myself. Hoping it'll be pretty good.
 

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This is a bit late. We did an AONE (Alfa Owners of New England) club ride on Saturday to Paris Hill Maine for the once year event when Bob Bahre opens his auto collection to the public. This coincides with a local 'Founders Day' event on the common in front of the big house, with a spectacular view of the NH White Mountains. Our club rep. secured a guided tour conducted by the curator, head-restorer. Jeff had some really detailed stories of the history of many of the significant cars, and the colorful characters in their past. Oh, and they have #33 of the 51 Tuckers every made!

They gave us a choice spot on the lawn to park together, with some welcome shade. The collection is stunning. Of course the highlight for us was this unrestored 1938 8C 2900B with body by Touring. As a collector, his focus is on significant pre-war, one owner, minimally restored examples. I read that he has had 10 1st place cars at Pebble Beach.
 

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Slowly restoring our original 88 Spider bought new. Has been sitting a few years waiting for retirement (finally here). Gas tank is pulled & being cleaned then the real fun starts.

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