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Sounds interesting Steve. How does it compare to the Canadian ones? Post some pics for us.
 

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Glad to hear the LS will be finally fixed up.

Still envious about your great grey Milano. What a find. Love the color. Our LS would look great in that.
 

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I finished fitting the 17" x 7.5" ROH Envy wheels to the 75/Milano today. The tyres are 215/45/17. The car is a lot nicer to drive with those than it was with the 14" wheels and well over ten year old tyres. It is much smoother, lighter on the steering and way more responsive to steering inputs. There was a slight problem with the front tyres rubbing on the edge of the body kit in front on lock and bumps, where the bumper body kit meets the fender flares. Hopefully we have fixed it for now. Eventually we will put Euro bumpers on it and they will have plenty of clearance. It is sitting a bit higher because the tyres are taller than the 195/60/14" ones it had on it before. We are very pleased with how it looks. Below are before and after pics.
 

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Been noticing for the last several months that there is a thump from the left front when driving over a bump with the 91S. Finally decided to look the area over so see what might be loose. Found everything bolted tight in the suspension, the stab bar bushings looked good, the strut top and bottom bolts and inner top nut all tight, good bushings for the stab bar links. All parts in the engine bay itself were tight as well. Exhaust system was tight everywhere, with all hangers intact.

Finally noticed that the little rubber bellows protecting the left side lower ball joint was all torn up. Joint had grease in it, but I wonder if that joint in worn and making noise at a road bump. Couldn't tell if it was loose, and too cold to do much deeper digging. Luckily, those joints are not difficult to change, except for making that tapered shaft pop loose from the hub. I always seem to have trouble with that, even with one of those forks, and using a hammer on the side of the lug it goes into. If it warms up a little I guess I'll have to change those, as I don't want the suspension to come adrift. Admittedly, the ball joints have been in there for a long time. Been changed once before I think.
 

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I rebuilt all the struts, including the inner seals of the shocks ala Pinino and R2, with all new parts last year, but will check again.

I like that tool. It will work on the 164 strut? Looks to be higher tech than the old pickle fork, lol. I wonder if HF has one of those.
 

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Giulia pricing email I got today

Giulia pricing email I got today:

Hi Steve,

My name is Verena and I'm the Alfa Romeo specialist here at Southern Alfa Romeo Fiat. I wanted to let you know that pricing has been released for the new Giulia, Giulia TI, and Giulia Quadrifoglio. Pricing will start at $37,995 for the Giulia, $39,995 for the Giulia TI, and $72,000 for the Giulia Quadrifoglio. Our vehicles are on-order and should be here in February or March. AWD is available on Giulia and Giulia TI as well as a Sport appearance package on both and a Lusso appearance package on the TI. The standard engine is the 2.0L Direct Injection Intercooled Turbo 4-cylinder engine with Best-In-Class 280 HP & 306 lb-ft Torque. The Quadrifoglio will have the 2.9L Bi-Turbo DI V6 with 505 HP & 443 lb-ft Torque. Please let me know if you have any questions and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Sincerely,

Verena E.
Sales Professional
Southern Alfa Romeo-FIAT
Norfolk Airport
2747 N. Military Hwy, Norfolk, VA
 

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Ya, it works WAY BETTER than my pickle fork. I had to bust loose the ball joints on the spider earlier this summer and there was NOTHING that was getting them loose -- then I remembered I had this one that I bought for lower A arm R/R on 24V car. Put it on and within 20 seconds the joint was off. Used air impact wrench to tighten it and man it came loose with a BANG!
 

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Hmmm, how do you get an impact wrench in there for the 164? I don't see the clearance. Probably have to use a socket or wrench with a long cheater bar, and bang on the side of the lug.
 

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Impact wrench on the spider! I think I used regular box wrench on the 164, got it real tight then whacked it with a hammer off it came
 

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Sounds about right. Thanks for the info. Will order one of those tools. Can always use another tool. You can tell I've not had to change a ball joint in many years, not keeping up with better tools.

Tool ordered, $40 total w/ship.
 

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At least. I've got the original window sticker for mine, came with the car when I bought it used. I'll have to take a look at it sometime.
 

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The 1991 164 sticker prices

Wow, Steve...which one for you? As for me...the'll come off lease in 2020?
Didn't the 164S sell for around $35,000 in 1991?
At least. I've got the original window sticker for mine, came with the car when I bought it used. I'll have to take a look at it sometime.
The 1991 164 prices on my three window stickers:

164B 5-speed $25035 cloth, steel wheels and no sunroof (my Originale).
164L A/T $650 w/sun roof $850 , headlight washers $150; antitheft $250 was $29935
164S w/ sun roof, H/L washers and anti theft (options same price as L $32775
All three has $160 mechanical prep

I paid $21151 cash for my 91 164B in Feb 91 but state tax and license fees made the total out the door was 22029.83.

This was about the same total price price with taxes and license fees out the door of 22170.15 we paid for our new 2009 Chevy Malibu LTZ fully loaded that listed for $28695. We cut a good deal on that car with $7050 discount under cash for clunkers and GM rebate programs. The $50 was trade in allowed for 96 Jeep GC.

I still have my Originale's AR Assurance personalized VIN ID card with inservice date 2/19/91 and my name stamped in it. Ain't that sumthin?
 

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Reading these posts prompted me to look at the window sticker from my 94 LS. Total price was $36695.00. Auto trans was 800.00, Champagne Metallic paint was $420.00, mechanical prep $160.00, and the gas guzzler tax was $1300.00! So in terms of comparable performance for today's dollars it seems like the I4 Giulias are real bargains, especially when you consider all the technical and safety advances that are included in the new cars. My question is how much will dealers add to the base price for extra profit when the limited supply of cars is actually available?
 

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MY Winter driving Tip to save door inner handles!

And maybe outer ones, too.

I am mailing out my next to last repaired driver's inner door handle to ME.

Buyer broke last one I sent him recently NOT at my forked repair end BUT at the long bone end near hand pull end.

My suggestion to him is to lube up door latch AND use central door unlock switch to unlock door first before pulling inner handle.

If outer handles and/or door seals frozen use heat shrink heat blower gun if available or the ladies hair dryer to thaw out key lock and handle.

Better still drive a winta beater not your 164.
 
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