[ROCisIN]

Tried to search but could not find anything... Currently running 17" Team Dynamics wheels on my Verde. Would like to push the rear wheels out a little. Does anyone know the max width spacer I can use without needing new lengthened studs?

Thanks,

Derik

 

[Balocco211]

Derik,

25mm is max spacer width that will fit under rear quarter with stock wheels. (new mounting options required) Using existing wheel studs, experiment with spacer size using fender washers until you meet minimum of 6.5 turns of hardware engagement. Chose hub and wheel centric spacers.

My problem:
I am chasing the same problem on a GTV6. On front with installed wilwood dynapro brake calipers that have changed the “x-factor” from face of wheel flange to caliper face that requires a spacer for the stock Campagnolo wheels to fit. (15” Team Dynamics wheels fit without spacer)

1982 GTV6 wheel studs thread standoff is 33.5 mm from face of flange. To get the stock Campagnolo wheels to clear the caliper I need approx 10mm of spacing. This doesn’t leave enough bolt thread to complete 6.5 full turns of hardware engagement.

My options:
Add spacer (10mm), open Campagnolo lug seat hole to allow extended thread lug nut to back thread and grab; Downside safety.

Add longer 12 x 1.5 mm wheel spines studs and add spacer; use open bulge lug nuts or long body lug nut; not much downside other than longer wheel studs.

Grind down interior of magnesium Campagnolo wheel face buttress 8.5mm to add needed clearance. Hmmm.


H&R Trak Plus DRM 25mm spacers might be an option. Downside is the Team Dynamics wheels need to be cavity back to accept the old mounting stud.

Post what worked for you.


Resource links:

SERPENT AUTOSPORT Accessories

trakplus.com

 

[fatdarryl]

I dont think you can safely add a spacer at all on the standard studs. I have 20mm spacers and longer studs waiting to go on, but the whole thing has to come apart to do this and the wheel bearings will need to be replaced any time you take the hub apart as well

 

[ROCisIN]

I dont think you can safely add a spacer at all on the standard studs. I have 20mm spacers and longer studs waiting to go on, but the whole thing has to come apart to do this and the wheel bearings will need to be replaced any time you take the hub apart as well

That's what I'm trying to avoid...

 

[ROCisIN]

Derik,

25mm is max spacer width that will fit under rear quarter with stock wheels. (new mounting options required) Using existing wheel studs, experiment with spacer size using fender washers until you meet minimum of 6.5 turns of hardware engagement. Chose hub and wheel centric spacers.

My problem:
I am chasing the same problem on a GTV6. On front with installed wilwood dynapro brake calipers that have changed the “x-factor” from face of wheel flange to caliper face that requires a spacer for the stock Campagnolo wheels to fit. (15” Team Dynamics wheels fit without spacer)

1982 GTV6 wheel studs thread standoff is 33.5 mm from face of flange. To get the stock Campagnolo wheels to clear the caliper I need approx 10mm of spacing. This doesn’t leave enough bolt thread to complete 6.5 full turns of hardware engagement.

My options:
Add spacer (10mm), open Campagnolo lug seat hole to allow extended thread lug nut to back thread and grab; Downside safety.

Add longer 12 x 1.5 mm wheel spines studs and add spacer; use open bulge lug nuts or long body lug nut; not much downside other than longer wheel studs.

Grind down interior of magnesium Campagnolo wheel face buttress 8.5mm to add needed clearance. Hmmm.


H&R Trak Plus DRM 25mm spacers might be an option. Downside is the Team Dynamics wheels need to be cavity back to accept the old mounting stud.

Post what worked for you.


Resource links:

SERPENT AUTOSPORT Accessories

trakplus.com

Thanks.

Think I will try your fender washer, 6.5 turns minimum formula first.

 

[ToonRboy]

Hi Derik,

I think you're asking the wrong question. Especially, since all wheels aren't the same thickness. How far is "Would like to push the rear wheels out a little"? THAT's what we need to know.

 

[sh0rtlife]

imo the best way to do it is always start with longer studs and then chop them down to length

 

[ToonRboy]

I suppose, but installing longer studs in the rear is considerable work. Better off just buying wheels with the offset you want.

By the looks of Derik's avatar, his wheels seem to fit pretty good. Probably the best thing is what Balocco211 did. Use spacer with extended thread lug nuts (may require opening-up the holes on the wheels some).

Click here:
Hub Adapters and Spacers

 

[shiny_car]

Spacer thickness will depend upon wheel width and offset, and of course how far 'out' you want it. Tyre (tire) width too, in terms of avoiding rub; and how 'low' your rideheight is, as to whether any rubbing will be 'hardly ever' or 'a lot of the time'.

 

[ralfalfa]

Verde Wheel spacers

I just happen to have a set of 4 [for sale] - 5mm spacers made specifically for that purpose. Can send pics if needed. Forgot to mention - didn't need stud extenders and standard nuts worked with not problem

 

[Alfatakesitall]

I have 20 mm spacer at rear.
In order to put them we had to change studs and replace whell bearings.
Now is even more beautiful and safe.
My tires are 205/45 ZR 16 on 7J and 1/2 rims ET 26.



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[ROCisIN]

Thanks for all the responses guys. I am trying to avoid installing lengthened studs (i.e. having to replace bearings). I just wondered if anyone knew off the top of their head if I could do a spacer up to 10mm??? BTW, my avatar pic is not my car, it's my mentor. Here's mine:

 

[Alfatakesitall]

Beautiful Milano Roc!!!
Which tire size do you have?
205/40 or 215/40 17?
Do they rub at front?

 

[ROCisIN]

Beautiful Milano Roc!!!
Which tire size do you have?
205/40 or 215/40 17?
Do they rub at front?

Thanks much!

215/40-17, they do not rub

 

[ToonRboy]

We already answered that we can't answer that question. Pull one of your log nuts off and see how much thread you got there. I would say that 6mm is the max for most aluminum wheels. Anything thicker and you'll have to do one of the two aforementioned mods.

BTW 10mm isn't even 1/2". Doubt it will give you the look you're after.

 

[italiacarfan]

I am having the same issue with my 88. I just lowered the car and I am running Team Dynamic 16 inch wheels. I had Serpent send me a 12mm spacer but my open lug nuts will not thread enough to be safe so Serpent sugguested I drill the wheel holes a bit larger so we can fit tuner lugs that will seat into the wheel better. I am still waiting to find someone to do this for me. Serpent is top notch btw..

I love your license plate frame, I used to work for Bellevue Alfa Romeo from 97-99, do you know if your car came from WA?

 

[ROCisIN]

I am having the same issue with my 88. I just lowered the car and I am running Team Dynamic 16 inch wheels. I had Serpent send me a 12mm spacer but my open lug nuts will not thread enough to be safe so Serpent sugguested I drill the wheel holes a bit larger so we can fit tuner lugs that will seat into the wheel better. I am still waiting to find someone to do this for me. Serpent is top notch btw..

I love your license plate frame, I used to work for Bellevue Alfa Romeo from 97-99, do you know if your car came from WA?

I actually have the black aluminum racing lugs from Serpent. Took one off this weekend and found quite a bit of room behind the nut to the wheel after I had turned in 6.5 times. Going to measure with
some washers this week, I'll keep you posted.

I was born and raised in Seattle. Relocated to Illinois in 2006. The car has been in my family since 1992 and have fond memories going to that dealer with my Dad. Pasquale himself would work on the car. I was like a kid in a candy store, they had all the cool Italian rides. The plate frame is very nostalgic for me.

 

[italiacarfan]

Very cool. I purchased my first Alfa from them in 1995 an 86 Spider Graduate then I was able to get a job as a lot porter in 97 and worked in parts and sales as well. I miss those days when I could be around Alfas all the time. When I first purchased my car there were two new 164s, an LS and a Q, in the showroom and used GTV6s, Milanos, Spiders were all parked in front of the store.

 

[ROCisIN]

So I finally had some time to experiment with some washers to simulate spacers. Each washer was approximately 3mm. I started with three of them, no real "look" difference. Four of them actually looked pretty good. I was able to finger tighten turn the lug nuts 5.5 times with the 12.76mm worth of washers which was 1 full turn short of the minimum of 6.5 turns. There is no question that I would be able to use 10mm spacers without using longer studs on my particular setup of wheels/lugs. Bummer is, 10mm just doesn't look the part. Think I may try the adapter route and shoot for about 15mm total. Here are a few pic's from the experiment.

Without:

With:

Without:

With:

"Spacers":

Measurement:

 

[Alfatakesitall]

Hey Roc, how wide your rims are?
7J or 7,5?
Would you advise me to upgrade to 17 inches?
Thanks in advance ;-)