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The Grid is in the planning stages for the 2008 SOVREN Spring Sprints at Pacific Raceways in Kent, WA. The date is May 17th & 18th 2008. Cars being accepted as prepared under Trans Am rules for the 1966 to 1969 season(s), Trans Am (Type) U2 (2 liter and under) cars from 1966 to 1969:

Alfa Romeo
BMW
Porsche 911
Volvo 122
Volvo
Cortina Lotus
BMC Cooper
FIAT Abarth 1000
Saab 96
Saab 850
Lancia Fulvia
Chevrolet Corvair
Renault 1093
Mini Cooper
Simca 1000
Volkswagen
Sunbeam Imp
Anglia
Datsun

For more information, please contact Steve Schuler:
[email protected]
(425) 941-2439
 

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Intersting....could you point me to a set of preparation rules for Sovern? I have a 1969 GTV with a 1750 weighing around 2100lbs. no bumpers and removable front airdam. Am I close?
Is there a link to track schedule and entry fees?
 

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Sounds like a great event. Wish I was closer. Do the U-2 TransAm rules really allow the Corvair to run? Last I heard it was well over 2 liters!

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Hi Andy - Thanks for your intrest, Although I am just the messenger your car description seems fine except the removable air dam. Our web site is Society of Vintage Racing Enthusiasts and the rules and entry forms can be found there. I am not sure if everything is posted yet for 2008. Please contact Steve Shuler for ?s at [email protected] or (425)941-2439

Look forward to your entry

Thanks John
 

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Hi Erik - Thanks for catching that you are exactly right Corvairs are over 2L. I passed that on to Steve Shuler. Our home track Pacific Raceways or better known as Kent in most publications and books has remained the mostly the same since the sixtys but in the near future the track will be changed some what to accomdate other racing formats. So here is great opportunity to race a Historic track as in the day. On that note at this point in time the Trans Am race we be 100 laps on a 2.25 mile track.

Thanks for your intrest
John
 

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General question- how to organizing bodies look at later cars that can be back dated to an "earlier" set up?

For instance, I have a '74 GTV, which, chassis wise, is the same as the '69 (outside of the floor pedal box), and could easily be converted to run a 1750.

I've wondered this before, but now that I have a fairly late car for vintage racing, I thought I'd ask.

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Eric
 

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Sounds like fun-but-

Are there any 911s around with 2.0L engines? And remember, they didn't even allow S specs. What about all the FIA "spec" 2002s? Most of them weigh around 1900lbs as opposed to the 2289 they're supposed to weigh to run B sedan. Would love to know more about these types of question, thanks, Fred.
 

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Hello Fred - As mentioned above I am just a simple messenger helping promote our wonderful Alfa Romeo mark for a great event.
I think it would be wonderful since you are a club member for you to vounteer to help Steve Schuler with all your knowledge and expertise as premire automobile restorer and previous 2.5 Trans -Am organizer for an ultimate event.

Thanks for your support

John
 

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225 miles in a Vintage Alfa

Hi Erik - Thanks for catching that you are exactly right Corvairs are over 2L. I passed that on to Steve Shuler. Our home track Pacific Raceways or better known as Kent in most publications and books has remained the mostly the same since the sixtys but in the near future the track will be changed some what to accomdate other racing formats. So here is great opportunity to race a Historic track as in the day. On that note at this point in time the Trans Am race we be 100 laps on a 2.25 mile track.

Thanks for your intrest
John
John,

I would be interested in a Kent 20 or 25, but 100 laps, 225 miles, in a vintage car is pushing it. I assume this is an enduro format with driver changes. In 15 laps in the McLaren I am toast, I know the g forces in the Alfa are less but 100 laps?

Bob

1965 RHD GTA Corsa Ex-Horst Kwech 1966 Trans-Am and B-Sedan Champion
 

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Race length-

100 miles or about 45 laps sounds more like it. I know we all want to duplicate things as much as possible but-. Maybe a couple of sprints of 50 miles each with a short break in between the "heats" might be fun too. There will be a considerable difference in G-forces- the Alfas with all the sliding that goes on vs. a Can-am car would be measured in "Mini-Gs". No less fun -just in a different way! Fred.
 

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Interesting Track

100 miles or about 45 laps sounds more like it. I know we all want to duplicate things as much as possible but-. Maybe a couple of sprints of 50 miles each with a short break in between the "heats" might be fun too. There will be a considerable difference in G-forces- the Alfas with all the sliding that goes on vs. a Can-am car would be measured in "Mini-Gs". No less fun -just in a different way! Fred.
Steve Schuler just sent me an email and confirmed 100 miles versus 100 laps. Even 100 miles is more than I want to run in a vintage race. I like a short sprint format of 10-20 laps depending on the track---thats just my POV. I don't want to use up the car at one event. I just went to the Pacific Raceways site and watched the videos. The track looks like a lot of fun. I am considering going to this event.

Bob

1965 RHD GTA Corsa Ex-Horst Kwech 1966 Trans-Am and B-Sedan Champion
 

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Dates?

Hi John
Wanted to post the links to the AROO website, but the two pdf's you attached to your first post show two different weekends in May.
Which one is correct? You may want to change the one thats in error.
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Bob,

Is a great track to drive. The very long straight is great. Yes, Turn 1 is in the straight, but is just a small kink that is taken flat out. There is some pucker factor approaching Turn 2 and wondering whether your brakes are still there! After that you have a surprising amount of elevation change, going thru a switchback and then onto the back stretch. A couple of fast corners and then you climb a steep hill. Go thru Turn 8 and do it all over again!

Not sure whether the videos do justice to how much the elevation changes from the front to the rear.
 

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Hey John,

Any word on the results of the vote on the proposed rule-change that would have allowed the Datsuns and later 2 litre Alfas to run vintage as well...?
 

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Hey John,

Any word on the results of the vote on the proposed rule-change that would have allowed the Datsuns and later 2 litre Alfas to run vintage as well...?
The appeal to me is that it features under 2 liter. I can run with a mixed field of bigger cars at my local track and save a 1200 mile tow.
How about two shorter races with one for the later cars.

Bob

1965 RHD GTA Corsa Ex-Kwech 1966 Trans-Am and B-Sedan Champion
 

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Don't worry-

Re-read the first post- this event is for the U-2 era, not the 2.5 Challenge. Real fans of the series know there were three "eras"- pre 911, two years with 911s and the 2.5 challenge. I think it's a good idea to stick to pre 69 to give the smaller bore cars a chance. As Bob has pointed out most clubs don't narrow down the field in this way. As I stated earlier the biggest potential drawback to the proposed format is to check or screen the 911s. Fred.
 

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Hey John,

Any word on the results of the vote on the proposed rule-change that would have allowed the Datsuns and later 2 litre Alfas to run vintage as well...?[/QUOTE

Sovren is a Democratic club and a rule proposal was submitted to change our eligibilty for production cars from 1969 to 1972. The members voted it down ( in flames) our rules are the same as they have been 1969 cutoff date.
 

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The appeal to me is that it features under 2 liter. I can run with a mixed field of bigger cars at my local track and save a 1200 mile tow.
How about two shorter races with one for the later cars.

Bob

1965 RHD GTA Corsa Ex-Kwech 1966 Trans-Am and B-Sedan Champion
Hi Bob - Thanks for your intrest, This is under 2 liter event with car eligiblity cut off at 1969 per the trans am rules.
Even thou it still in the planning stages this should be a great event and hope that you will consider coming. I know there are few GTA's commited already of particular intrest to me is # 36 of Trans Am fame.

Please Stay tuned!

John
 
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