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Building a "gentleman's racer"...... Using a '69 1750 as a starting point (1st car I ever had back in 1980!).....Previous owners made it into a a weekend warrior but I think this 50 year old beauty needs to have some of its "evocation" back. So taking it forwards in resto-mod mode is the goal as I'll never be able to get it back to original. There are just too many parts missing.....so might as well make it better than it was and fit for the 21st century......This winter I am getting the outside refreshed to look the part and will also be making the interior a little more hospitable for great trips. Then drive the pants off it this year and figure out what needs to be done next!

Just painted the front and added the Cibies on alfaholics (modified) front bar and added the LED delta front headlamps. Fiat 500E front indicators. Jut waiting for the "hour-glasses"
 

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Turn Signals?

Looks good. Where did those front turn signals come from? I'm considering running without a bumper and like the way those look.
 

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I don't know how available the FIAT lens are but I've used these: https://www.minimania.com/part/TURNSIGNALL-P/Classic-Austin-Mini-Turn-Signal-And-Park-Lamp-Assembly


Quality is OK, typical aftermarket. comes in clear and amber
Thanks, those look very familiar from my days working on Triumphs! TR2 thru 4 used variations on the same design (maybe even the exact same part).
Not sure about the OP's FIAT 500e reference. I actually have one of those sitting in my driveway and the turn signals look nothing like that. Maybe they are from the original FIAT 500 rather than the current model?
 

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the lights where from Autobella in the UK.Says they are form a Fiat 500D?!?!?

https://picclick.co.uk/2-x-CLASSIC-FIAT-500-FRONT-ALUMINIUM-INDICATOR-322217361058.html

What was important about these light fitment is that the front of the Alfa has an old bumper (fender) hole that I had to enlarged to fit these lights into and it is a complex curve. Therefore you cannot put just a flat backed light (like that of an old mini) otherwise they'll look like a pair of old droopy nipples on the front of your car!! :) Following the contours of the car with the aluminum light assembly means the lights point straight ahead once the lenses are fitted........making for a perkier front end!
 

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Thanks Steve, it's all making sense now. The 500D would be the early 60s version of that car--it doesn't have much in common with my 2014 all electric FIAT! :smile2:

Also, good tips on the angle of the lights. I definitely wouldn't want the saggy look.

Great looking car, best of luck with it!
 

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The outside headlights look to have a yellow trim, or ???????
 

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Horrors unveiled!

So decided to go for it! Completely rewire, pretty up the engine bay and have the motor checked out by a pro! Got the engine out with my buddy..... what did I find......Horror conversion from floor pedals to hanging pedals by previous owners!!!! Pedal box seems to be a late GTV.....but the bulkhead has been butchered! Ideas?!?!?!

Also......the whole exhaust was one piece! Front to back, completely welded together....not joints!!!! Weber 45's were fitted on a 1750. At least the rubber mounts where the correct diameter but then the inlet manifold was back to 40mm!!!!!

Jeez, what are these people thinking!
 

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Could I suggest that you just upload the jpg pictures directly and dump the pdfs ... make our lives so much easier.

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Subscribed.......... Lots of work but not full of rust at least.
 

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Would love to but the tiny size limit of the forum means its very difficult to upload a JPEG straight from your phone!?!? LMK how you guys do it?
 

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Would love to but the tiny size limit of the forum means its very difficult to upload a JPEG straight from your phone!?!? LMK how you guys do it?
I use a computer to resize them. The size limit is not tiny though. Maybe you can adjust your phones camera settings? And yes my phone takes photos wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to big too, but I find using this site on my phone very frustrating!

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OK....here is the extent of it..........car butchered by some "numpty" so that they could fit hanging pedals! What options do I have? Engine is now out. Hanging pedal box seems OK but I am really worried that the structure of the bulkhead where it was "bolted" is somewhat compromised. Steel plates on the inside helped brace the bolts but OMG it was horrid.
1. Is there a inside the firewall bracket/frame that can be sourced that makes for a a much more secure solid fitting?
2. Not sure I want to refit the servo as thinking of going the "alfaholics" route. https://www.alfaholics.com/race-parts/105-series/brakes/adjustable-dual-circuit-brake-balance-box-with-clutch-lhd-hanging-pedal-version/

I'd like to hear from anyone who has done this. Thx Steve

PS Fixed the pic upload issue......!
 

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the lights where from Autobella in the UK.Says they are form a Fiat 500D?!?!?

https://picclick.co.uk/2-x-CLASSIC-FIAT-500-FRONT-ALUMINIUM-INDICATOR-322217361058.html

What was important about these light fitment is that the front of the Alfa has an old bumper (fender) hole that I had to enlarged to fit these lights into and it is a complex curve. Therefore you cannot put just a flat backed light (like that of an old mini) otherwise they'll look like a pair of old droopy nipples on the front of your car!! :) Following the contours of the car with the aluminum light assembly means the lights point straight ahead once the lenses are fitted........making for a perkier front end!
good observation... marty feldman, pointing downwards was always a pet peeve of mine. gtam fenders have flat mounting platform to make point straight.

the originals are from a 101 guiletta if memory serves. real ones are glass lens carello, most replicas are plastic. the

fiat 500 are different and larger i recall but close and plenty of folks used them. they come with a slight angle that might be useful to spin it to get pointing forward. came in at least two version, plastic and a smaller one with chrome bezel.

anyone 500 experts here that can chime in?
 

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BIG ASK.......Does anyone have pictures of bare shell, LHD, late version, GTV bulkhead, that came with hanging pedals. Preferably views from inside the car with the steering column support and from the engine bay. I am going to have to try and recreate the sheet metal in that area to be much more strong and rigid so need a guide. Thanks S
 

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BIG ASK.......Does anyone have pictures of bare shell, LHD, late version, GTV bulkhead, that came with hanging pedals. Preferably views from inside the car with the steering column support and from the engine bay. I am going to have to try and recreate the sheet metal in that area to be much more strong and rigid so need a guide. Thanks S
Steve here's a start.

Your bracket that the aluminum steering column support bolts to has been cut away as has the Alu support had its forward bolt mounting hole cut away.

In the later Hanging peddle cars the complicated steering column support welds to a box section that welds to the inside of the fire wall and has some studs for the booster.

If you do want to change you 69 over to proper hanging peddles then you need to get the section of fire wall that the box section and then the column support bracket are welded to. I would be asking here or contacting Larry at APE.

If you want to stay a a floor peddle then you need the Alu column support bracket for a floor peddle car which I think must be different than that used in hanging peddle cars.

You also need a Alu column support of the correct length to suit your steering box or do a weld repair on yours to regain the second bolt mount.

A PO did make a mess of it.

Ciao

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Another picture and second picture an Alu piece support mounting bracket cut from a late standing peddle car. It has the fuse box mount.

I recommend that you try and get a firewall section that includes the welded on bracketry. And once you determine which ALu Column support you need (long or short) I can see what I have.

Good Luck

Ken
 

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