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Anyone know anyone who can provide me a front and rear set of replica "Ti Super" bonnet and deck badges? Same for a complete bolt-in "Ti Super Dash / Gauge Cluster assembly complete? I want to replace my ribbon speedo and tach with something that looks a bit more proper. Many thanks, Bill Noon
 

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Anyone know anyone who can provide me a front and rear set of replica "Ti Super" bonnet and deck badges? Same for a complete bolt-in "Ti Super Dash / Gauge Cluster assembly complete? I want to replace my ribbon speedo and tach with something that looks a bit more proper. Many thanks, Bill Noon
Bill,

Pretty easy to replicate using 101 guages and a steering wheel from a Guilia Sprint GT or Giulia Super. Bonnet and deck badges are pretty available on Ebay Italia.

-Peter
 

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Hi Peter, what do you charge to do something like what is shown in the photo? How long does it take to have one made up? Can you assist with some replica front and rear badges as well? Cheers, Bill
 

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Hi Peter, what do you charge to do something like what is shown in the photo? How long does it take to have one made up? Can you assist with some replica front and rear badges as well? Cheers, Bill
Hi. I'm just a fellow Alfista. I'm not any sort of restorer or fabricator, sorry.

Ebay will supply the guages and badges with a little patience.

Gerat Christmas card, btw. We might do the same ourselves...
 

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Thanks Peter, let me know if you come across anyone who sources and assembles such a dash. Cheers, Bill
 

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Hi Bill, and please if I have this wrong may someone correct me, but I think all you really need to do is, effectively remove the instrument binnacle and remove the strip speedo, and make up a new flat panel to house the instruments and then have the dash cap recovered. The last part being straight forward for any decent auto re-trimmer. I had the dash cap on my Super's dash re-covered.

Further to the instruments, as I understand it, you could use either GT Veloce, or even 2600 sprint instruments. The wheel shown in the picture is a Nardi and they too are extremely easy to find off ebay. I have bought 3 of them out of Japan 2nd hand. The cheapest $80 US and the most expensive $160. It might be easier to find one of these rather than a '67 Giulia Super/Gt Veloce steering wheel. Dave
 

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Here's a picture of a made-up panel. We ended up taking an old aluminum traffic sign and cutting out the holes with a hole saw - close enough. The size and shape was determined by the ribbon gauge cluster.

If you want your tach in the center, some more work is necessary, eg cutting out the steering column mount with a hole saw, so the tach cable can go into the gauge.

You'll also need to set up your block/oil filter housing for mechanical oil pressure. You'll also need a sending unit for oil temperature and there is a necessity for adding an inline resistor to get the gauge to read accurately - I haven't gotten around to that piece yet ... I am satisfied that the needle does not move once the car is warmed up. The fuel gauge likely will not be compatible with your sending unit, but you can substitute the one from your ribbon cluster into the round gauges. You'll also need to rewire all the little indicator lights - substituting indicator lights w/blade connectors from a later car makes this job easier - the round gauges have bullet connectors.

Fair bit of work 'til everything works as it should, though the hardest part may be finding a nice set of gauges, eg Giulia 101, Giulia SS, etc.
 

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Thanks Alleggerita for chipping in with the specific details, I knew for sure someone also would be able to further assist. Hopefully now Bill has all the info he needs to change over the instrument panel, once he can find the right instruments. You certainly put together one excellent Giulia there and the GTA steering wheel looks the part :)
 

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Anyone know anyone who can provide me a front and rear set of replica "Ti Super" bonnet and deck badges? Same for a complete bolt-in "Ti Super Dash / Gauge Cluster assembly complete? I want to replace my ribbon speedo and tach with something that looks a bit more proper. Many thanks, Bill Noon
Proper, in the sense of fake?

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Hi Carter, I would consider purchasing original "period" items but these are probably best sourced for someone restoring an original car. "Fake" or "reproduction" items would suit me fine. Do you have something to offer on those lines? Many thanks, Bill
 

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The gauges are just normal 101 Giulia gauges, right? Fabbing up the mounting plate for them would not be a big deal, and the rest of the dash structure is I believe standard early TI with the glove box door and "puta merda" handle deleted.

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Hi Carter, I would consider purchasing original "period" items but these are probably best sourced for someone restoring an original car. "Fake" or "reproduction" items would suit me fine. Do you have something to offer on those lines? Many thanks, Bill
and would you like some 288 badges for your 308?

TI Supers were very special cars, and Alfa didn't make many of them. Even when they were circulating [racing] a few replicas were made, in order to use the special tuning. A friend had one. There have been more replicas, some very good, made since then. I don't know what to think of them. I do know what Marcel would think.

But to stick the badges on the wrong car is either silly or deceptive. Silly when applied to Fiero kit cars. This is somewhere in the middle. But the same issues and values apply to Alfa as to cars with horses on the front.

So this might be like putting Ferrari badges on Dinos.

Except that TI Supers were very special. And your car is not a TI Super.

I don't want to start a raucous on the forum. Its your car. But you -- maybe more than some of us Alfa guys -- should be sensitive to these issues.

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Except that TI Supers were very special. And your car is not a TI Super.

I don't want to start a raucous on the forum. Its your car. But you -- maybe more than some of us Alfa guys -- should be sensitive to these issues.

--Carter
Anyone building a proper TI Super Replica will like some remake TI Super badgets on the hood and rear. And then trash it around tracks ;-)

I am absolutely fine and appreciate a good replica - as it is very special as well.
 

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Personally, i would'nt call it a replica more a pseudo TiSuper with a personnel touch,with the components available today ,the first improvement over the orignal would be a Hi-Po engine.As for sourcing a metal dash why not start with a car from the correct period ,all the other little details would be correct.correct seat design is also available in the states.Please note the correct steering wheel was also from the 101 along with the instruments, but you can't beat aa Autometer monster tach instead of the orignal.
 

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Many thanks guys... Just looking to have fun and don't like the original ribbon type dash. The car was started by other esteemed members of this group and I am continuing to make a few changes and adjustments. The engine and gearbox are sorted and not a concern. At this point just looking to make a few final cosmetic changes which include the badges front and rear and the dash arrangement. Any additional sources for any of the bits and pieces as well as finished items will be very appreciated.

Cheers, Bill
 

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Badge here:
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/sedan-1963-1974/154958-my-ti-super-replica.html#post781762

I believe you can make them up from combining different 1300 ti and 1300 Super script but there may be different sources. Not quite my thing. On the other hand, as far as the shell is concerned - and I hear you Carter - there really are not many differences between a TI and a TI Super: no floor vents, center hand brake and delete the sound deadening is just about it - mechanically is another story though that can be easily enough replicated and that has been done in many instances for cars that run in historic racing. The neatest stuff are all the special trim bits though that include lightweight Zagato style seats ....

FWIW, many people make GTA replicas, not totally my thing either but they can be very neat. These cars don't bear much semblance to a real GTA. A TI will be much closer to a TI Super any day. And many GTAs running in historic racing are missing a lot of their special bits as they aren't allowed to run them becaue they were homologated after 65.

The gauges, amazingly enough, are legit for a TI - a contemporary option. See below:

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/sedan-1963-1974/154958-my-ti-super-replica-2.html#post784164
 

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Replica

Hi Bill,
Replica's IMO are a cellebration of the real thing for those of us who love our cars and can't afford the real thing. I have posted on the "Sedan" section of the forum some photo's of my replica. I used 2600 gauges as I already had them in my pile of bits and converted the tacho to electronic to make sure it was reasonably accurate. The badges I put together over time from ebay Italia. Giulia TI is easy to get but the super took some time to find, to get the correct bar across the lettering or Olaf has given the web site of his contact who does "replica" badges in Holland, I think, a useful site. I look forward to you posting your project photo's in the future. The first photo is of the available "aftermarket" dash available in Europe in the period and the other two are my car. I can understand some people not liking Replica's, but we can all be a little bit precious at times.
Good Luck
Jim
 

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Bill,
Here is the site: Santalfa oldtimerbeurs scheveningen
My apologies to Berlinista as this was from his posting and not from Olaf, apologies Olaf.
There is a thread back in October? called "My TI Super" have a look at that also, as there are some comments and advice that is all relevent.
Again Good luck with the project. Preservation is the key to our Alfa's on going life.
Jim
 
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