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Not sure I want to try this again anytime soon but I finally stuffed engine and tranny back into Non-Quik Silver rescue project. And I mean stuffed. I had whole engine built up with A/T, P/S pump, a/c compressor, alternator and belts.

Well in order to get it in I ended up removing front wheel, headlight, alternator, a/c compressor, p/s pulley, belts, alternator mount, front a/c and motor mount.

Also took out a/c suction hose, PDI valve and pipe to evaporator. It really took some shoe horning and creative jacking to get tranny under ABS brake lines and engine to clear chassis.

Had to unhook hood struts and prop hood open more with spare floor jack handle.

Now I was able to come in over top of right front fender and slide legs of engine hoist under right side of car.

Once I was able to tip tranny low enough to force under brake lines things started looking up.

Had to put car on jack stand
 

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It was a fun day fitting it into engine bay.
 

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Much more to do to finish install but at least I got the engine and tranny off the floor. Once I got it in there the hardest thing was getting engine to drop onto stud of rear lower mount. Front one was pretty easy.
 

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Gosh. It was lots easier for me when I did this with A/C and alternator dismounted. It was more than enough trouble even then. I'd hate to try it like you did. So, now that you can say you did it, are you ever going to do it that way again (even if not "soon")?
 

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Wow, I have an engine rebuild on an automatic coming up as soon as I find a little time. After these pictures maybe I will to budget a lot of time. Is there any advantage of leaving the transmission in the car?
 

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It's not _quite_ as intimidating if you simply dismount the alternator and A/C compressor. You have to disconnect the shock mount connecting the transmission to the wheel well (not the strut, but a separate item for the tranmission itself) and the cooling hoses for the A/T, and the kickdown cable to the throttle mechanism, but otherwise it's pretty much like a 5-speed. I'd personally recommend pulling the engine and transmission together. Leaving the tranny in the car seems like a really bad choice to me. But I'm not you.

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I have separated the two in the engine compartment. Not fun, not fun at all. I much prefer taking them out together. I'm in fact thinking about pulling the engine and tranny out together on my 240 Volvo for a rear main seal replacement, just because I would rather separate the two out from the car than lay on my back trying to manhandle the stupid thing under the car. Saves your sanity and your body from the anguish. ;) Looks major to everyone else, but no biggie in reality. Plus, you can now clean up the engine/tranny and compartment real good and get to anything else that may have been a pain otherwise.
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I saw the title and wondered if the technique involved a brick on the accelerator...!

When I take out my 164's engine, it will definitely be from underneath - with a hoist to lift the body. Refitting is then simple, as seen at 7:52 (7 minutes 52 seconds) in

Full credit to you though Steve, as you have refitted engine and mine is not yet even removed! ;)

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I saw the title and wondered if the technique involved a brick on the accelerator...!

When I take out my 164's engine, it will definitely be from underneath - with a hoist to lift the body. Refitting is then simple, as seen at 7:52 (7 minutes 52 seconds) in YouTube - making of the Alfa 164

Full credit to you though Steve, as you have refitted engine and mine is not yet even removed! ;)

-Alex
I think this is up for debate, seems like half the board prefers going through the top, the other the bottom. Lenard (164FAMILY) has dropped it through the bottom once, said it was a major pain in the *** with the equipment he had to do it with. Sean, another BB member, pulled his out through the top, and said it was pretty easy. So the debate rages on, I think nobody is right on this one, just a matter of personal preference.
 

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I saw the title and wondered if the technique involved a brick on the accelerator...!

When I take out my 164's engine, it will definitely be from underneath - with a hoist to lift the body. Refitting is then simple, as seen at 7:52 (7 minutes 52 seconds) in YouTube - making of the Alfa 164

Full credit to you though Steve, as you have refitted engine and mine is not yet even removed! ;)

-Alex
And the beauty of it is it now runs see my no injector pulse thread for continuing saga. http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/164...njector-pulse-non-quik-silver.html#post557638
 

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The only issues I had with removing the engine/tranny out the top is that the power steering pump wants hang up on the dog bone bracket and the transmission wants to hang up on the abs brake lines. You kind of have to sway it back and forth to clear both. I suppose I would do it through the bottom if I had an Alfa factory in my garage. I have spoken with several of the local Alfa gurus and they say that going through the bottom is dangerous without the right tools. I have to agree. No, I'm not going to entertain anyone on arguing which way is better because I really don't care. This is the way I am most comfortable with, have the tools for, and it works, and that is all that matters to me.
 
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