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Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
Recently I was in the Garage Attic and found several Steering boxes that I thought I might sell. Well I found about 50% of the Burmans with cracks. In the process of sorting these and helping some members with incorrect boxes installed in the Alfas, I found a number of variation amongst my hoard.

Of the Burmans I found 3 shaft lengths that I will call long, medium and short.

I also have an early ZF and another ZF install in my project 1964 Sprint GT.

I will provide Tube length, tube plus to threaded end, Shaft over all, Year/type, key location if possible. Lengths in cm are close to accurate +/- 2 mm

I invite others to add their information or comments.
 

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Burman Long 1970 box Shallow dish wood Hellebore
Tube 64 cm
Tube to threaded end 74 cm
Shaft over all N/A
Year/Type 1970/ GTV
Key position Right side

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Discussion Starter · #3 · (Edited)
Burman Medium Shaft
Tube 63 cm
Tube to threaded end N/A
Shaft over all 84.5 cm
Year/Type 1
Key position Right side
 

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Discussion Starter · #4 · (Edited)
Burman Medium 1969 box with lower Boss
Tube 63 cm
Tube to threaded end 72.8 cm
Shaft over all N/A
Year/Type 1969
Key position Right side

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Discussion Starter · #5 · (Edited)
Burman Medium 1969 box with lower Boss Giulia Super?
Tube 63 cm
Tube to threaded end 73 cm
Shaft over all N/A
Year/Type 1969/Giulia Super?
Key position left side

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NOTES: my 1969 build Giulia Super Biscione came with what appears to be this type of box. What is interesting is that it came with a deep dished plastic rimmed steering wheel but a shallow dished 71 wood Hellebore fit right up. This super may be a transition car as it has floor pedals and fuse box under dash on a welded on bracket.
 

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Discussion Starter · #6 · (Edited)
Burman Short box Measurements from 1970 GTV Shaft, 1971 GTV Shaft, 1975 1600GTj Box
Tube 62 cm
Tube to threaded end 72
Shaft over all 83.2
Year/Type 1970/ GTV
Key position Left side

Pictured the 1975 box and a 70 shaft
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Discussion Starter · #7 · (Edited)
ZF box early no provision for key, boss on bottom
Tube 62 cm
Tube to threaded end 71.5
Shaft over all N/A
Year/Type early
Key position None

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Burman Medium 1968 box with lower Boss GT junior
Tube 63 cm
Tube to threaded end 73 cm
Shaft over all N/A
Year/Type 1968 GT junior
Key position None

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Discussion Starter · #9 · (Edited)
Burman U-Joint type Box 1974 GTV or Berlina not sure
Tube - n/a
Tube to Threaded end - n/a
Shaft over all to end of u-joint 71 cm
Year/Type 1974 GTV or Berlina
Key position Right

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I had NO IDEA Ken. Thanks for posting this. Further, those with cracked housings, all cracked in the same areas? All different types or one more likely to crack than the others?
 

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I had NO IDEA Ken. Thanks for posting this. Further, those with cracked housings, all cracked in the same areas? All different types or one more likely to crack than the others?
Hi Gordon, I cannot easily draw any conclusions so I will not but do have the impression that the short boxes are more prone. Thanks for your interest.

Ken
 

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Excellent post Ken. Valuable to everyone.
 

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Discussion Starter · #15 · (Edited)
Not sure about the Berlina? I used one of these u-jointed boxes that I removed from a wrecked 1974 2000 Berlina in 1985 and used it on a 2000 GTV.
I used one of the u-joint type on a 1971 FI GTV and had to cut the firewall opening a little for clearance. Did you have to cut??
 

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No, and the 2000GTV I installed this on was an early one (3020582). The rubber boot that seals the firewall around the column though is specific GTV vs Berlina and u-jointed vs straight column - I had to be creative to fit a boot. Don't ask the details.

This reminds me that I first installed this u-jointed box on my winter beater, a 1971 1750 Berlina that I later dismantled. It was 100% bolt on.
 

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Maybe I cut firewall to fit boot. I don't remember.

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