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Stay with me on this...it is a honest question......sorry for the length.
When the AROC Convention was held in New Hampshire, I submitted my 93 Spider to judging. I actually did it to see how it would rate and to learn where the "gaps" are in the car's condition. I also participated as a "freshman" judge with Matt Jones from ReOriginals to learn that side of the effort.
This being my first Convention and first Concours event at which I was more than a spectator, I was somewhat dismayed that Series 4 cars were lumped with other years (and vice-versa). My Spider was judged as a "group" against other Series 2&3 Spiders. I was somewhat discouraged. I see from the results of this year's Concours, the same lump of Spiders has occurred (see listing below).
Why? Is it more of an engine/displacement/brakes class distinction than a body style/year distinction? It strikes me as odd that a 72 competes with a 87 that competes with a 91, etc. I can't get past this but I also see it with other Alfa classes.
Sigh....
Rob
Place Name Vehicle Score
Motor City Alfa 2007, AROC National Convention Concours
August 4, 2007, Meadow Brook
Presented by Re-Originals, Black Barts Emporium, and Sports Car Market
Class 10 Spider 1966-1968
1 Steve Schwartz 1968 1750 Spider 99.7
2 Paul Van Bemmelen 1967 Duetto 91.4
3 Bud Bay 1969 1750 Spider 86.1
4 Ed Geller 1969 1750 Spider 85.8
5 Brad Mellor 1967 Duetto 84.1
6 Steve Garrisi 1966 Duetto 80.1
7 Victor Cerami 1966 Duetto 78.2
Class 11 Spider 1970-1994
1 Henry Sershen 1972 Spider 98.8
2 Bill Kennedy 1988 Spider Quadrifoglio 97.8
3 Enrique Zuniga 1984 Spider Veloce 97.8
4 Loyd Heimbruch 1978 Niki Lauda Spider 97.7
5 John Lutsch 1988 Spider Quadrifoglio 96.7
6 Gordon Zimmerman 1991 Spider Veloce 94.2
7 Don Wisniowiecki 1987 Spider Quadrifoglio 91.8
8 Ed Kisscorni 1988 Spider Graduate 91.3
9 Jennifer Gustafson 1989 Spider Veloce 91.1
10 George Beston 1970 Spider Jr 90.8
11 Richard Gondek 1974 Spider 90.1
12 Fred Flynn 1978 Spider 81.9
13 Brewster Thackery 1983 Spider Veloce 79.3
14 David Small 1987 Spider Quadrifoglio 70
When the AROC Convention was held in New Hampshire, I submitted my 93 Spider to judging. I actually did it to see how it would rate and to learn where the "gaps" are in the car's condition. I also participated as a "freshman" judge with Matt Jones from ReOriginals to learn that side of the effort.
This being my first Convention and first Concours event at which I was more than a spectator, I was somewhat dismayed that Series 4 cars were lumped with other years (and vice-versa). My Spider was judged as a "group" against other Series 2&3 Spiders. I was somewhat discouraged. I see from the results of this year's Concours, the same lump of Spiders has occurred (see listing below).
Why? Is it more of an engine/displacement/brakes class distinction than a body style/year distinction? It strikes me as odd that a 72 competes with a 87 that competes with a 91, etc. I can't get past this but I also see it with other Alfa classes.
Sigh....
Rob
Place Name Vehicle Score
Motor City Alfa 2007, AROC National Convention Concours
August 4, 2007, Meadow Brook
Presented by Re-Originals, Black Barts Emporium, and Sports Car Market
Class 10 Spider 1966-1968
1 Steve Schwartz 1968 1750 Spider 99.7
2 Paul Van Bemmelen 1967 Duetto 91.4
3 Bud Bay 1969 1750 Spider 86.1
4 Ed Geller 1969 1750 Spider 85.8
5 Brad Mellor 1967 Duetto 84.1
6 Steve Garrisi 1966 Duetto 80.1
7 Victor Cerami 1966 Duetto 78.2
Class 11 Spider 1970-1994
1 Henry Sershen 1972 Spider 98.8
2 Bill Kennedy 1988 Spider Quadrifoglio 97.8
3 Enrique Zuniga 1984 Spider Veloce 97.8
4 Loyd Heimbruch 1978 Niki Lauda Spider 97.7
5 John Lutsch 1988 Spider Quadrifoglio 96.7
6 Gordon Zimmerman 1991 Spider Veloce 94.2
7 Don Wisniowiecki 1987 Spider Quadrifoglio 91.8
8 Ed Kisscorni 1988 Spider Graduate 91.3
9 Jennifer Gustafson 1989 Spider Veloce 91.1
10 George Beston 1970 Spider Jr 90.8
11 Richard Gondek 1974 Spider 90.1
12 Fred Flynn 1978 Spider 81.9
13 Brewster Thackery 1983 Spider Veloce 79.3
14 David Small 1987 Spider Quadrifoglio 70