[Snips1973]

Hi all
I recently bought a 1600 gt junior.
I had a few small issues, one being wipers not working and blower fan.

I removed the scuttle grill only to find a high tide water mark, although dry it look like the wiper motor has been half drowned for a long time.

I took the motor out which looks to be dead or seized.

After scraping around the bowl area I eventually found the drain which was blocked and a hose with a kink in it. Cleaned out, new flex hose needed.
But there isn't much of the steel drain left, probably just enough to get the hose on.
Worse still I'm looking at the blower unit thinking what horror is behind it.... Any steel left

So is there a replacement scuttle bowl panel available, can't see one on classic alfa.

thanks.

 

[GTVMk1]

Hi Snips

Is this the part?

I can't recall seeing any replacement scuttle panels available from the usual suspects.

How about some photo's so that we can see the damage.

Cheers,
Wazza.

 

[GTA R]

Do You mean the plenum chamber, that houses the wiper assembly and drain etc ?

If so, I've never seen a repacement steel part.

In Europe many of them are at least pin-holed, leaking water into the cabin, as there's always a little bit that can't get down the drain hole.
Usual fixes are weld new metal in, braze pinholes up, or properly fibreglass the leak points with glass fibre mat and resin.

Steve

 

[Snips1973]

Hi Steve
Yes the plenum chamber, took the heater out last night, it wasn't connected to the water supply and the fan doesn't work, probably the area filled with water and dropped down in to the heater. The drain had a kinked rubber hose.
I'm in UK, it's an South african car, and the majority of the body work is good, had sill and floor repairs (not replacements) but I suspected it would.

But it's a really awkward spot, it's defo pin holed, and looks rough on the inside but may be solid enough to work with.

So I was thinking about cleaning it up and using por 15 silver. But not sure how I can paint under the wiper mounting bracket.

 

[1750GT]

The only way is to remove the deflector piece on top...then reattach it afterwards...you might be surprised how much corrosion is under there....this is what I did on my car...


http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/gt-...ch-blue-69-gtv-restoration-32.html#post730751

 

[Snips1973]

couple of pics now the heater is out

 

[Snips1973]

and another

 

[1750GT]

Looks very similar to what I found on mine. I opted to weld up a new piece in multi sections....take a look from around post #180 (click the link below and it'll get you there)...

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/gt-...ch-blue-69-gtv-restoration-31.html#post731826





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[bulletpruf]

Ouch. Same problem with my '72 GT Junior. Please keep us posted on what you end up doing.

Thanks,

Scott

 

[bulletpruf]

Looks very similar to what I found on mine. I opted to weld up a new piece in multi sections....take a look from around post #180 (click the link below and it'll get you there)...

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/gt-...ch-blue-69-gtv-restoration-31.html#post731826

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That is very helpful!

 

[1750GT]

Yeah actually the repair I did starts at post #175. The opening actually has a flare or beveled portion before the flange....that's why I had to weld this up in sections and not just bend it over.....which one could probably do for simplicity.

 

[General Boy]

Old post....but i'm looking at the rusty scuttle bowl of my 1970 GT junior at the moment - see attached photo.
Heat matrix is removed an being refurbished, with a rusty scuttle bowl now revealed, with evidence of previous repairs. Questions:
Is the drain point meant to be lower than the drain hose? It seems that water is always going to gather here, followed by rust.
The elbow out of the scuttle bowl looks very rusted. Repairable in situ or should i have it cut out?
Can i remove the slotted body panel above the scuttle drain to get access for surface rust repair?

 

[1750GT]

....Questions:
Is the drain point meant to be lower than the drain hose? It seems that water is always going to gather here, followed by rust....

Not sure it would matter that much...there will always be air flowing from the scuttle opening louver (which would see high pressure air at the base of the winsdsreen) to the exist point of the drain tube at the bottom of the car (lower pressure). Of course if one parked the car outside during a rain event...and the car was not drive soon thereafter ...then I suppose yes water will accumulate there and begin the rust process. After I rebuilt this panel on my car....I applied a thick coat of Por 15 to the panel as well as inside the tube so as to create a good barrier between the metal and the environment.

 

[General Boy]

Thanks for the info.
I’ll think I’ll try and repair in situ, apply rust converter and patch up with fibreglass. When I remove the scuttle drain I think the elbow will come with it, so I’ll need to replace that with a pvc elbow fibreglass it in.


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[shane1750]

Hi
Where are you in Australia ? If you are in Sydney I can give you the number of a panel beater
welder that could repair that section good as new . Please don’t become one of those dreaded previous owners that makes everybody cringe.

 

[kengta]

Hi
Where are you in Australia ? If you are in Sydney I can give you the number of a panel beater
welder that could repair that section good as new . Please don’t become one of those dreaded previous owners that makes everybody cringe.

I agree do it right as best you can once.

Ken.

 

[General Boy]

Yes, I’m in Sydney inner west and would prefer to do it right ....hopefully without pulling too much of the car apart. Recommendations on a repairer wound be gratefully received


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[kengta]

Don't be afraid to remove the deflector panel (or what ever it is called) above the heater opening to give the access you need. Drill out the spot welds and melt or grind and break the 2 brazed joints you might find.

Ken

 

[shane1750]

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