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I have seen the originals on spiders in germany.........quite a neat solution.
Be aware though that Zender tuning closed down many years ago and on the german forum many say these 'Zender type' aftermarket spoilers are not as good a fit as the originlals were.

original looked like this, always color coded to vehicle, with zender wheels, side skirts and front (not seen in this photo) and rear bumper treatment.
 

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I have seen the originals on spiders in germany.........quite a neat solution.
Be aware though that Zender tuning closed down many years ago and on the german forum many say these 'Zender type' aftermarket spoilers are not as good a fit as the originlals were.

original looked like this, always color coded to vehicle, with zender wheels, side skirts and front (not seen in this photo) and rear bumper treatment.
Query as to whether the ones that are being sold by Alfaholics are genuine Zender or not. They don't say anything about the ones they sell not being authentic Zender.
 

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S3 rear "spoiler"

This is my 2nd reply, tried using the quick reply with pictures and it didn't work, getting used to this new layout...

I went through this last year searching for feedback on a Zender for my S3 as I was doing a total re-spray and the current foam spoiler was in sad condition and needed replacement. I never got any feedback so I went another route.
I contacted a salvage specialist here in the US (Alfa parts exchange) and got a newer style hard plastic stock Alfa spoiler with the 3rd break light. I believe the cost was $200 USD.
I cleaned it up, had it sprayed to match the body and rewired the contact switch in the trunk so the brake light became functional.
Here are a few pictures of how it looks today.
For me it was a good compromise as it is a little smoother than the foam one and still allowed me to add a few of the badges without drilling holes.
Les
 

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nice ride!

Beautiful car Les.

I like your 'compromise' plan of using the later 'hard plastic' trunk and rear fender spoiler trim pieces (used on S3b models) and then coating them with flexible polyurethane paint to match the body. Great idea, well implemented. The results are stunning.

And hats off to you for making the new 3rd brake light functional. Well done!
 

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Looks very tidy LBinNM. Thanks for posting the pictures; I feel more inspired to get on with prep for the total respray I've been dreading. I got in touch with Alfaholics and they assure me they are the genuine article and that they sell quite a few of them so I've ordered a set. Not sure yet what will be my solution to the lack of space available for badges on the new kit. Will post some pics when it's all done and dusted.
 

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Not sure yet what will be my solution to the lack of space available for badges on the new kit. Will post some pics when it's all done and dusted.
when alfa went to the hard spoiler they put the emblem on the trunck lid.
 

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I saw that when I was researching going this route and in fact bought one to use, but decided it looked cleaner without it and never installed one
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Yes that's definitely a possibility. Many parts sites have quite a range of badges that would look good on the trunk lid. I'll see what it all looks like when it's done and dusted then make a decision.
 

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I've never seen a zender spoiler in person but think they look great in photos. If I had an S3 I would definitely consider replacing the dull black original tail spoiler with a body colored low profile zender one if I could get it. I think it really transforms the tail. Not sure how it would look but I think gluing a new emblem on the top of the trunk deck like the S4s might work. Otherwise who cares if there's no emblem on the back, every one will wonder what it is from behind, and then they'll instantly know when they see the front or the sides. Tell people that it's edizione speciale della Signore Pininfarina!
 

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I wouldn't put an AR badge on the top of the trunk.........those that have, have a round recess that it fits into........otherwise it would stick up like a sore thumb (maybe eventually fly off in the wind!)

Maybe one placed left or right of the numberplate if you really wanted one.
 

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I wouldn't put an AR badge on the top of the trunk.........those that have, have a round recess that it fits into........otherwise it would stick up like a sore thumb (maybe eventually fly off in the wind!)
The 86 and later S3's were on the trunk and do not have a recess. The 91 and later S4's do have the recess. But its a completely different trunk lid.
 

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The 86 and later S3's were on the trunk and do not have a recess. The 91 and later S4's do have the recess. But its a completely different trunk lid.
My '88 S3 definitely has the round recessed area that the trunk emblem fits into.

The countersunk area on the trunk lid must have been added sometime after 1984 but before 1988...
 

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I don't think my 87 has the recess, but I could be wrong (car is packed away for winter).
I've never seen a Zender spoiler in person, but would like to.
I'm normally not a fan of painting the spoiler to match the car, but LBinNM, it looks great on your car, however the car is dark like the spoiler normally is. Speaking of which, is your car black or charcoal. I'm thinking charcoal and it looks amazing.
 

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Attached are 2 pics from my '89 Graduate, also made in 1988. Sorry for the poor quality, but it should help to give you a rough idea.

It seems there is no indentation for the badge. It just simply mounts in the middle of the trunk lid near the spoiler.

Hope this helps-M5
 

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Before I replaced my rear trunk emblem, I didn't think it was in a recessed cup. It certainly didn't look like it was sitting in a countersunk hole. But when I got it detached, sure enough there was a depressed area underneath it.

I didn't take any pictures at the time, but here is a post from a guy with an '86 Spider showing that even in 1986 the countersink area was present:

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/spider-1966-up/23844-s4-trunk-badge-removal.html#post1052418

It's just too hard to notice until you pop the trunk emblem off.
 
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