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So...this is a rather vague question but I currently know nothing about newer Spiders...
What is the general opinion on late 80's and early 90's Spider reliability?
I currently have a 72 GTV drivable (sometimes) project car but want to get more Alfa driving time on the road. :)
I've been mulling the idea of selling my 03 daily driver and getting a late 80's or early 90's Spider but I worry about reliability...I still need to get to a park'n'ride to get into work. :)

The next question, what can I expect to pay for a decent reliable driver if there exists such a Spider. :)

Any comments?

Thanks!!

Adrian
 

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Bosch Spiders are very reliable once they are sorted of the PO's misdeeds. Like any 20-ish year old car, there are things that con go wrong, but I have no compunction about taking the '86 any where I want to go. However, if SWMBO is involved, other considerations come into play.
 

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Swmbo?

What does SWMBO mean? My Alfa's (previous 69 and current 67 spider) were very reliable with my maintenance and Weber carbs. I don't replace every part that moves like Ray Segale said the dealership in Seattle used to do. I have no smog equipment except an oil exhaust and that's why I like the older cars, I can work on them.
 

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Thank you...now what is the difference between the Graduate, Veloce and Quadrofoliga (sp?) luxary extras or more?

SWMBO!???

Thanks again!
 

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I had an 86 spider i bought from the third owner. Apart from the normal wear and tear on the 25 years on the hoses and belts, I had no problem with the car. I used the hell out of it every day, ran it hard and except for using a little oil, the thing ran great. I only had to replace motor mounts, oil pan and suspension bushing, because of the railroad tracks i ran over many times every day. The sad thing is i lost the spider to a leak in the injector line hose, and it caught fire and was totalled by insurance company. I only paid 5300 for it and ran it for two years and still got 3500 from the insurance when it finally was totalled! The problem with the fuel injection system hoses was age and heat, as i live in south florida. I was ready to replace the hoses when it sprung a leak in traffic, and caught fire. Even on fire i was able to drive it to the side of the road!!! I sadly miss my spider. But the reliability was better than most used cars i have owned. I am currently looking for another spider or maybe, a GT.
 

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SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed.

Graduate= Basic model
Veloce adds power windows, leather seats & 14" alloy wheels
Quadrifoglio adds body kit, 15" alloy wheels, and removable hardtop.
 

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Rassilon said:
What!? No one wants to speak up about their Spiders!? :):):)
Sorry Adrian... I had been away from my computer for too long, or I certainly would've jumped on this one! :D

I for one feel that the S3 Alfa spiders are among the most reliable cars out there... My '86 that I had put nearly 100K miles on of daily driving left me stranded TWICE, and BOTH times it was not at all the cars fault. First was a bad u-joint on the way back home the day after the mechanic supposedly fixed it. He readily admitted to it being his fault, fixed it/paid for the tow, and it was never a problem again. Next was a broken aftermarket rotor that split in two the day after the tune up. New OEM rotor, and the car started right up. Without fail the car had started EVERY time I needed it to. After it was totalled :mad: I bought an '83 that, for some reason, I have even more confidence in. In ALL weather it starts and gets me to my destination.

A lot of people give the Alfa's a lot of crap about their reliability. My thought is that people may be confusing them with Fiats, or something. Not knocking Fiats (I've had several, myself), but... Also, the Alfas run better the more they are driven.
-Dave.
 

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As I read this thread, it reminds me of the number of times that I was stranded by Spica injected Alfas (I've had 2: a 1750 and a 2000) and how oxymoronic it is for me to think about reliability and Alfa in the same sentence. I drove one of the early Bosch cars, was amazed how in February, in Atlanta, it started right up after being in the cold (yes it DOES get cold in Atlanta) but it felt like an Alfa on Prozac. I realized last night, while reading Braden's Bible, that what I really wanted to be doing to my latest acquisition, a '76 spider, was pulling the powertrain out of the car and taking it apart! Reliable, who cares? I'm never likely to drive it out of local cell phone distance from my family. Fun is the watchword. A Buick is reliable.
 

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My bosch injected '86 spider is a very reliable car. I have no hesitation in driving it wherever I want to go. I am planning to take it to northern Italy next spring, a round trip of some 2500 miles.

The ONLY problems I have had with it have all been self inflicted :eek:

:) JaB
 

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My 1986 Alfa Spider was purchased 1.5 years ago with 111K miles on it. The PO had it sitting in a garage for several years, the battery was dead when I went to test drive the car. I took it to our local Alfa specialist. The clutch and brake master cylinders were replaced, the radiator repaired, and the clutch slave was replaced. There was never a problem buying parts- all this was completed in one day. I've been driving the car to work and back everyday, and have made several weekend trips into the local mountains. I trust the car to start and get me from point A to point B and back. The best part is its fun, sexy, handles great and has that Italian sex-appeal. Its not fast off the line, but it can move through the curves with good speed and agility. It won't have the brute muscle of a late model Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, but it cost me much, much less than a new car.
 

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My '84 has been in the shop less than my new vehicles... and then only because I wanted certain things done. Otherwise, the only time it leaves me stranded, is due to the intermittent No Start issue I have... and that one is easily rectified by a quick push or leaving it to cool off. So, not a true "stranding". My intermittent start issue has been posted in other areas... but suffice it to say, seems many think its the starter solenoid... and I have not yet had that replaced as my mechanic thinks it's a short somewhere... I dunno yet... have been living with it for quite a while. Back to the reliability... I'm pretty happy and have had the car for 3 years... again, seems more reliable than the new ones I have bought.
 

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As a side note, I have been working at a Summer resort hotel for several years, so I frequently get requests for jumper cables. I make it a point help jump start people's Dodge pick-ups, Fords, Porsches, etc.. I usually tell them that if they want reliability, they should buy Italian.
 
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