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Hi all,
i have a 24V, and need to change the oil, but not sure which filter to buy. is there one that i can get at a local parts store (fram or otherwise)?
 

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Hi all,
i have a 24V, and need to change the oil, but not sure which filter to buy. is there one that i can get at a local parts store (fram or otherwise)?
Cross Reference Fram PH-3614. K&N HP-1002 etc.
 

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great!
thanks a lot man!
 

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Bab have you ever changed it before?

24 not easy to remove the oil filter, usually has to come out the wheel well; very hard to remove from underneath the car unless its on a lift-----
 

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this is on a milano... the 24v was from a 164ls, thats why i posted in this section
 

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We don't care where it is the Filter number I gave you or a cross-refernce is good to go and much easier to get in and out than a Fram PH-16 size especially in a Milano where close quarters are even closer.
 

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Yeah make sure you screw it on tight enough too.. I made the mistake of night having it on tight enough, and ended up wasting 6 qt's of fully synthetic mobil1 oil and oil all over my driveway! :D
 

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Do the 12 and 24 valve engines use the same filter? There are two sizes that fir the 12 valve but I always fit the smaller of the two. Bosch also makes one to fit, I forget the cross reference number, sorry. One of the sizes that fits the 12 valver is a Mopar standard size also fitting a Chrysler motor or two.
 

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Hand tight only!!!

tighten as much as you can by hand! I had to remove a filter from a 24V that was on so tight it wouldn;t budge! Took about 3 hours to get it off what a hassle!
 

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I use the same small 24v filter on the 89 Milano, the 91S and the 94LS. Don't let Gubi hear that you guys are talking about Fram filters, among others.
 

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I use the same small 24v filter on the 89 Milano, the 91S and the 94LS. Don't let Gubi hear that you guys are talking about Fram filters, among others.
I will if I want to!
 

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here's a silly question.... how much oil does this take?
i didn't notice a fill line on the dip stick... but it was pretty dark when i looked last night
 

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here's a silly question.... how much oil does this take?
i didn't notice a fill line on the dip stick... but it was pretty dark when i looked last night
About 7 7 1/2 quarts shallow 164 pan and 8 quarts early 12v deep pan.

Do you have 164 pan or Milano 2.5L or Verde 3.0L pan adapted to engine?

Do you know your engine well?
 

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not sure but can find out... i just bought the car this week... so information is somewhat limited....
thanks for the info on both systems thought!
 

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Mazda filter fits

I noticed the Purilator(sp?) filters I have been buying for our 2010 Mazda 3 sport fit the 164LS nicely. I use Motorcraft FL300 for the 12v 164s, but they don't fit on the LS for me.
 
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