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I was replacing the rubber seals on my 73 super outer headlight buckets and took out the lens/globe. I noticed mine is getting quite rusty. The larger outer lenses are Corello and have separate bulbs - 1 H1 and a H4.

Looking at all the regular sources for replacements, I found nothing (other then for Nuova)
Anyone know where to get them?

Thanks

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Hey Fred hows it going besides this problem??

Not this as a substitute repro.

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Hey Thanks. Don't know how I missed it on the Classic website.
A repo is fine! My 73 super is just a driver anyway.
Last month I drove back down from Connecticut to Key Largo - Perfect drive again. Replacement rear end is great and gives me more speed at lower RPM.

Here we (Nico the dog too) are waiting for the Cape May Ferry
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Looking at what Classic is selling... I don't think its right. My outer headlight uses a H4 and a H1 bulb. The one classic is selling has only the H4 fitting. :(
 

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Last month I drove back down from Connecticut to Key Largo - Perfect drive again. Replacement rear end is great and gives me more speed at lower RPM.

Here we (Nico the dog too) are waiting for the Cape May Ferry
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I love that car. I love that you take it on trips.

Isn't the H4 a hi-low filament lamp? Yours has two separate bulbs in the outer light? Like the old Marchal Amplilux?
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Yes, the H4 bulb is a high/low bulb and the is an additional H1 bulb in that outer headlight too. The smaller inner high beam is also a H1. When driving on a dark road it seems like daylight with the high-beams on! :p

As for Marchal Amplilux; interesting. I've never seen them.

Here are photos of mine:
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The Carello number on the glass is 03.490.700 and on the back I think its 03.493.800

I am confused!
 

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Yes, the H4 bulb is a high/low bulb and the is an additional H1 bulb in that outer headlight too. The smaller inner high beam is also a H1. When driving on a dark road it seems like daylight with the high-beams on! :p

As for Marchal Amplilux; interesting. I've never seen them.

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That's really interesting, they're almost side by side.

The Amplilux is hard to find and highly sought after by vintage Ferrari and 911 guys. But I think they work in a similar way with two separate reflectors.
 

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A couple of other possible options:

Daniel Stern recommended this outfit in Germany to do headlight restorations, but I haven't tried them:

http://www.reflektorklinik.de

Also NOS and used Carello headlights come up on Ebay quite a bit, and usually the seller photographs both lens and body so you can see the P/N of each.
 

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Fred google those 2 part numbers. The first one yields lots. Second one , not so much.
I never heard or dual bulb units.

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Yes, I did search for both numbers. The only correct one seems to be
carello 03.493.800
Here is what I found on an Italian auction site from 2010
Looks like what I need, but where to get them?

So, the question is... these are not the factory headlights for my 1973 super?


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So, the question is... these are not the factory headlights for my 1973 super?
I don't think so. My '73 1.3 doesn't have that (just one h4). .... these cars are pushing 50 years old with how many years of tinkering. The H1 in the outer light comes on with the high
beams?

Searching that part number, gets a few european Ebay hits. They are called Carello "Bilux". Two links to them being for a Ferrari Dino?

Regardless, those are very cool though.
 

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Fred, I have to agree with the last poster. My '72 1.3 (basically the same as yours) had the original incandescent bulbs .. (check your owner's manual)... the switch operates the parking lights on the first twist of the stalk.. then outside low beams on the second twist then all four on the high beams when lever is dropped. The bulbs take a dual filament H-4 to upgrade with the inner lights only connected to high beam. I believe your style was retro fitted.. The lens on mine is a script Carello 07.480.700 and the car was imported 30 years ago. This is why you might not be able to talk turkey and make sense with suppliers. Cool lights but not stock. What ever makes you happy counts more than stock.
 

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All 4 H1 bulbs come on when the stalk is dropped in addition to the 2 H4 bulbs (low beam only)
Ah, and all these years I thought we all had incredible high beams!
So, an upgrade from a previous owner it seems.
Apparently they simply took the high beam connection off the H4 and connected it to the H1 just below it.
I'm not at all worried about stock on my 73 (my '66 yes) and the incredible visibility at night is a real bonus.
I'd recommend this as an upgrade to others... but the dual bulb headlights seem to be unobtainable. :(

I thought the wire diagram had an error on it not showing two outer bulbs...
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More digging.... I found pages from the Corello catalogue that lists the Corello part numbers for the various lights,

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Yes, the manual is much more detailed.
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Hi Fred,

I guess your light units have Carello # 03.490.700 on the glass and Carello # 03.493.800 on the back of the reflector.
A Carello light unit, having different numbers on the glass versus on the reflector, is very normal. It's all about the assembling in the factory. One type of glass was used on more types of reflectors / fixation method, so the glass could serve more than one car brand. ( read also below)
These lights, having a second reflector inside, were, and are now certainly, quite expensive light units.
The Carello light units with the 03.490.700 glass were used on many cars, amongst others on Ferrari like mentioned by someone else here before. They all did have the double reflector system.

You can find relatively easy some of the units with the Carello # 03.490.700 on the glass on Ebay in Europe, but finding them with also the correct Alfa fixation hooks at the rear like you showed in post # 12, isn't that easy. The only correct ones for your car have Carello # 03.493.800 on the back ( reflector side), just like the one you showed here yourself. Focuse on that number !

Be sure to check before, that the light units that you want to buy have the same fixation hooks as yours. ... if they don't ... better don't buy !
As said before, there are multiple of these light units having the Carello 03.490.700 number on the glass, they all have the double reflector system, ... but unfortunately the fixation hooks at the rear differ !

According to originality, I can't remember of having seen this type of double reflector light units in the Alfa catalogs ( ... neither the Carello unit, nor the Marchal equivalent) but they do are listed in the 1971 Carello catalog for the Alfa 105 cars indeed. They were an Iodine bulb upgrade for the standard Carello 07.480.700.
Btw, both Carello and Marchal strongly advised their clients to use relais for this type of light units. Do you have relais for that purpose on your car ?

If you can't find that # 03.493.800 , I can have a look whether I still have a 'pretty good' set of them. Only if you want of course.


Rgds,

Thierry
 
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