Thanks for the input, miles are a bit high for the price in my opinion. If everything else worked as it should I would price this 164 at $6500 maybe due to mileage. There was a mint 93 with, if I recall 40,000 miles for around the same price in PA about 8 to 10 months ago.My first post here!
I went and drove this car last week. I'm afraid I'm now smitten with these cars and I'm trying to figure out how to get one that isn't quite that pricey. It had a suppleness combined with a refined yet somehow raucous power delivery that is very enticing. And the sound! It's not perfect, but it's pretty dang nice. Was very clean and well kept. Let me see if I can remember some of the details:
Current owner got the car from the original owner and has had it for 2 years. Says he's only put 600 miles on it in that time. Seems like a car guy that's into european cars and plays around with them a bit.
AC belt squealed for a while when I started it. Might make me worry about bearings a little bit.
Airbag light stayed on.
There was a light missing on the dash when pressing the test button but I can't remember which exact one it was. Maybe 5 or 6 from the left end?
I couldn't figure out how to operate the vent controls as this was my first time in one of these cars. I wouldn't call the controls on the center console user friendly at all. But I have a Mini and they get dinged for the same thing so it's something to be gotten used to and appreciate as a character trait later on. Right? ;-) So I don't know if the stepper motor is good or not. The vent was blowing from the dash though so I guess that's a good sign.
Has 137k miles. Strange he doesn't mention that in the ad.
The original owner of the car was from Hong Kong. Apparently he changed the badge from 164 6o 168 for the reasons mentioned in the ad.
I didn't test the suspension settings. I guess it was in L mode while we were driving. He said you could really only feel the difference on the freeway. That struck me as a little odd and made me wonder if the system works properly.
Anyway, nice car. Too rich for me at the moment and I'd expect some of these issues mentioned above to be dealt with for that kind of $$. I'd guess it'll be available for a while to come unless he lowers the price which I don't think will happen. He's not in a hurry to sell it.
Welcome to the BB. They are really great cars. I'm sure you will love it when you get one
Sounds like this one is way over priced.
That's the one I was going to look at. I think he lives in Fountain Valley but keeps it in Costa Mesa. It looks nice, I just got lazy and never went up there. Let me know how it is. I'm wondering what was done to it to make it salvage?Thanks. There's a salvage one in Costa Mesa that I'm going to look at on Wednesday. It's a 94. Guy's asking $2k. If it's really well sorted and doesn't have any serious salvage issues I may grab it.
There's also a "parts only" 91S not far from me. Only 66k miles. Might be worth getting ($750) and restoring but it really depends on how much is wrong with it. I'm not afraid of a project car and these 164's look like something one could really sink teeth into.
BTW, what's the deal with the adjustable steering wheels on these cars? Common feature? Or random? The subject car of this thread didn't have any adjustment lever that I could find.
I'll report back. The guy has been a nightmare to communicate with. Really random and short email replies. Grrr.That's the one I was going to look at. I think he lives in Fountain Valley but keeps it in Costa Mesa. It looks nice, I just got lazy and never went up there. Let me know how it is. I'm wondering what was done to it to make it salvage?
The parts car may be worth it for the motor and trans and such. Offer less, like $450. Cash and a tow truck talk
This is quite common, I had the same trouble. When the system is OFF you have to press the OFF button to turn it ON...I couldn't figure out how to operate the vent controls as this was my first time in one of these cars...
There is a lever buried up there, took me about a month to find it. Not really worth the effort as the adjustment is very minimal, maybe an inch one way or the other....BTW, what's the deal with the adjustable steering wheels on these cars? Common feature? Or random? The subject car of this thread didn't have any adjustment lever that I could find....
Way to bite the bullet! Wow, from the low res picks on CL it looked quite alright. Glad you're saving it from the crusher. Good luck!Well in a fit of aurally induced insanity I ended up buying the salvage black 94 164LS. It sounded great and ran really well and I think I got a decent deal.
Well I finally got a chance to really go over it today and boy did I step in it. The list of things I want to take care of is long and deep. Having a hard time not feeling overwhelmed at the moment. Sheesh. What have I done?
The power steering rack is a mess.
It's leaking coolant from up near the reservoir.
Needs a drivers window regulator.
The clutch slave is a mess.
The LCD screen needs to be repaired (of course).
The suspension makes all kinds of mildly alarming noises.
The paint work is a mess. Looks like it had a $200 paint job. I plan to do up the body work and get it sprayed by a friend who does super high level restoration, but it's going to be a ton of work. I'm ok with that and kind of looking forward to having something to really be proud of.
It looks like there are some vacuum hoses not connected to anything above the brake master. The cruise doesn't work so maybe this is related to that?
Agh. I'm going to start a new thread. At least just for moral support.