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Hello all,

I'm Frans from the Netherlands and since a couple months owner of a red 1987 Spider QV.
After riding motorcycles since I was 18 and owning lots of cars and motorcycles over the years I decided to sell my trusty old Kawasaki 750 turbo and its big brother KZ 1100 in full Vetter trim.
My wife and I attended lots of meetings with the turbo but the last couple of years we didn't enjoy the long rides on that narrow saddle anymore, numb fingers and cramping hamstrings, guess every hobby has an expiration date eh ?
Soooo, the little light above my head lit up, how about a little convertible?,to be able to sit next to eachother, enjoying conversation, the sun on our heads and the wind through our hair.....sounded like a plan !
Because I owned a Alfa sud once, I still remember the Alfa Romeo experience, nice low seats, really sitting in the car and that typical sound of the engine, Before we knew it we were testdriving a beautifull red QV at a local specialist,we should have done this years ago, what a joy !!
Unfortunately that particular car was way out of our budget, also pretty overpriced imo so after a extensive search on the internet we found our own lady in red.
At first glance it appears to be in very good nick for a 24 year old Italian, seats and paint are really nice, engine started right up and after a short testdrive and a quick checkup of the bottom of the car we decided to buy it.
Only 250 miles were driven in the last 8 years with a total of 70K, lots of bills from the garage that maintained her showed all kinds of little repairs that had to pull it through the annual safetyinspection, nothing serious so far.
Driving it home little things were starting to show, some blue smoke from the exhaust while braking on the engine....hmm, well, the last oilchange was also 8 years ago so that could be the cause, a couple of new valvestemseals and an oilchange will fix that.
All kind of little things started to show, mirroradjustmentswitch broken, heater doesn't work, second gear is making noise while shifting back from third and there's also a strong smell of exhaust fumes with the top down.....
do you recognise that gut-feeling when you did something stupid?
Did we buy a lemon?, is this what we sold our beautifull bikes for ?
I took the car to another local specialist and let him judge it, after a testdrive it's not so bad after all, it needs a little welding below the front fender but overall no bad car for the money,pfew ;-)
Since then, the oil was changed from the motor, diff and gearbox, I changed the intakerubbers from the (Solex) carburettors, replaced the cracked 1-4 exhaustheader,all fuelhoses and the valve from the heating.
While taking it apart there's always something else to replace so a new waterpump with fresh hoses is on it's way as I write this.
What surprises me the most is the state of the engineroom and the interior.
Everything is soooo dirty, how come people buy such a nice car and don't take care of it ?, it took us really two days to clean the interior and going along you find all kinds of damage to rubbers, trim, doorpanels, clumsy fixed with screws that don't belong there.....I just don't understand.
Well, she's in good hands now and becoming more and more 'our' car, I also took the mirrorswitch apart (nice little puzzle) and that fixed the mirrors, straightened the glovebox-lid, got the interiorlights working again, she'll be fine soon with all the advice and knowledge here on the site.
Funny thing is, we went on a cruise in 2009 and the fine people that we shared our table with those 12 days also own a spider and are member of this forum, what are the odds ?!?
Here a couple of pictures of our pride,

greetings from the Netherlands,

Frans and Inge
 

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Nice looking Alfa. Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine. I have a 79 Spider and then my wife had to have her own. So I got her a 84 Spider. Her's is the nicer one.
 

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well yeah, you may have been born at night but not last night, of course she does:)

Frans, glad you are gettting her sorted out, these cars give back what you give and from the looks of it you are really going to enjoy this car. congrats!
 

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Frans, beautiful Quad, wish mine was that far along. I too made a similar journey from two wheels to four - just makes sense as you grow wiser :) . Alfa financing via Ducati in my case. Welcome!
 

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Wait - Solex carbs? That car should have Bosch FI.......

Otherwise, all of your niggles sound typical of a car that's been sitting for 8-years. Entropy is a heck of a thing - a car will fall apart just sitting there long enough. My car recently sat for just 8 months and it was truly amazing how dirty the engine bay got. I think the issue is that everything has a sheen of oil on it and when dust settles on it it gets gooey and makes a mess.

Welcome aboard, Frans! Where are you in the Netherlands? I have relatives in Delft. Very nice place - we love to visit.

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Off the top of my head (which means don't quote me), the Euro 1.6l Spiders, model 11535, have carbs. The 2.0l, model 11538, have Bosch Motronic.
It is the USA 11541 2.0l Spiders that have Bosch L-Jetronic.
 

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""At first glance it appears to be in very good nick for a 24 year old Italian, seats and paint are really nice, engine started right up and after a short testdrive and a quick checkup of the bottom of the car we decided to buy it.
Only 250 miles were driven in the last 8 years with a total of 70K, lots of bills from the garage that maintained her showed all kinds of little repairs that had to pull it through the annual safetyinspection, nothing serious so far.
Driving it home little things were starting to show, some blue smoke from the exhaust while braking on the engine....hmm, well, the last oilchange was also 8 years ago so that could be the cause, a couple of new valvestemseals and an oilchange will fix that.
All kind of little things started to show, mirroradjustmentswitch broken, heater doesn't work, second gear is making noise while shifting back from third and there's also a strong smell of exhaust fumes with the top down.....""

What you've got there is, you've got yourself an Alfa! Nothing here that is anything but normal for a 24 year old Alfa Spider. I bought myself an 88 Quad Spider last year, and it seems to be going backwards. The more I repair or replace, the worse it seems to get. Looks like nothing will ever be called finished untill I repair or replace everything but the body monocock. Just sit back and enjoy the ride, physically and financially. Fortunately you are among friends here.

BTW, your use of American slang English suggests to me you have spent some time in coocoland.

Keep us all updated in your new adventure.

Robert Hill in Memphis,TN USA (coocoland)
 

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Oh no Frans!! What did me, and Diane get you into!!! Just kidding. It sounds like you, and Ingrid are really enjoying your Alfa. They have other amenity's that I'm sure Ingrid will enjoy later this year, like a heater. I'm glad your getting her sorted out. I see you've already caught the Alfisti "as long as I'm in there" syndrome. It starts with a leaky heater valve, but the parts list to fix it includes, new hoses, a water pump, new hose clamps,and top and bottom radiator hoses. Oh, and those nuts on the water pump have to be replaced with nice shiny stainless steel.
Welcome to the BB. The collective wisdom of thousands.
 

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Thanx for the warm welcome,

indeed, once you are taking stuff apart there's always something to replace, to clean or to repair and no way there's going to be any delay in doing it before rebuilding the lot :D
In fact I've always been this way, it builds great reliable shiny machines and nothing's feeling better then to take it out with the misses knowing all is well and the car will not let you down on that sunny sunday ;)
Secretly I just enjoy placing nice new shiny parts, broken or not :)
As with the bikes I will try to be an asset to this community and hope to learn all that there is to know about these great vehicles.
American slang? we do love and visit the States every time we get the chance,but I guess watching 14 complete seasons of Star Trek without subs does enhance the skill as well....

@Chris:we live in Dordrecht, pretty closeby appox.25 mls

untill next time

Frans
 

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Great looking car!

Interesting that the battery is in the engine bay. On US models it's in the trunk....all the FI intake stuff is where the battery is on your car.
 
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