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Hi,

I live in Glasgow.

I have paid a deposit on a GT Junior 1300. The car is due to be inspected next week. If all goes well it will be coming home.

The car was originally a 1300 but has had a 1600 engine put in through the 80's by an Alfa specialist. Does this devalue cars?

There are quite a few things to sort, suspension height, paint and general tidy up.

The car is RHD and has been in South Africa for a lot of its life.

This is my first Alfa having restored older 911's, I am really looking to forward to getting the car.

Cheers

Tom

 

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Hi,

I live in Glasgow.

I have paid a deposit on a GT Junior 1300. The car is due to be inspected next week. If all goes well it will be coming home.

The car was originally a 1300 but has had a 1600 engine put in through the 80's by an Alfa specialist. Does this devalue cars?

There are quite a few things to sort, suspension height, paint and general tidy up.

The car is RHD and has been in South Africa for a lot of its life.

This is my first Alfa having restored older 911's, I am really looking to forward to getting the car.

Cheers

Tom



Hi Tom and welcome ,you started out well by posting a pic we all love pictures. Not a lot of RHD juniors left in the world so it should go up in value and not difficult to source a 1300 motor if you want to go original.There is a couple of excellent part suppliers in England so you won't have a problem there. John :smile2:
 

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Welcome into the "light". Alfa owners/collectors are not like Porsche owner/collectors (I had two Porsches). We fully enjoy the cars and understand that things happen and pieces need to be replaced over time to keep the cars running. While you might get some higher valuation for the Jr. if you had the original engine, it's not really a big deal. Many Alfa owners replace the smaller engines with higher output versions, e.g. 1300-1600, 1600-1750 or 2000CC. Some V-6 drivers lust for the 3.0 liter engine swap. All of that depends on whether you are going to sell your Alfa at some point. Good luck with yours, it looks to be a real beauty.
 

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If the car came from the interior of SA you're in luck. If it came from the east coast it would be a pile of brown rusty bits surrounded by 4 wheels, so I think you should be ok. I was born in Durban, rust was a standard feature on new cars.

Motor upgrade will count against you in concours only. But it will make driving it a lot more fun and you can keep up with modern traffic.
 

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Hello Tom and welcome to the forum! We're happy to have you join us. Looks like you got yourself a very interesting and exciting project. I'm sure this Alfa will be getting only better with all the work you planned on it. Good luck and keep us posted!
 

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I have certainly jumped in head first.

The car is official mine, all paid up except for a small sum retained until it passes its MOT. The car is now with Alfaholics, the work planned so far, fast road suspension kit, ride height down by 2", new Nardi steering wheel, new GTA Veloce wheels and tyres, engine tune up, GTA style licence plate lights, Adjustable Dual Circuit Brake Balance Box.

I think that's it for now.

I have still to see the car and drive it.

My view was make sure its connected to the ground as well as it can be and make sure it stops well, the essentials. I can work away on the rest in due course.

Cant wait to get the car home.
 

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My car finally arrived on Wednesday, I have gone way too fast, too early. The car ended in Alfaholics for a lot longer than I had expected and I have spent more on the car than I paid for it. All without seeing the car.

The upside the car drives brilliantly, it is an absolute delight on the road and really comes alive once the speed builds, very pleased. Downside, the car is very tatty, lots to do. Its going to take some time and money to get the Junior upto the std I was looking for. I suppose this is all part of the ownership journey.

Here are some quick pictures I have taken so far.....it looks better from a distance. I love the shape and the stance of the car.









 

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Nice photos too.

I have to say being the owner of a GT Jnr 1300 step front the comment about 'Keeping up with modern traffic' confuses me somewhat. Sure you're not gonna be first away from the lights but the revvy 1300 is a great drive around town superb fun at safe speed on the back country roads (....my daily drive is a 911s so I am aware of the speed factor) and even happy on the motorway buzzing along at 70-80mph.
As many have said driving a 'Slow' car fast is far more rewarding than driving a 'Fast' car slow
 

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I haven't posted for some time and to be honest have done very little to the Alfa after all the work at Alfaholics. The condition of the car has annoyed me from the start, it was fine from a distance but shut lines are poor, doors don't fit correctly, lots of bubbles and paint defects over the entire car. I made the decision to do it properly, I have spent way more on the car than I had originally intended and now its probably a keeper. I can't fully enjoy the car the way it is so I have started a full bare metal respray and restoration.

Its always interesting to see whats underneath and get a better feel for the condition of the original metal.

Here's some before pictures, looks good.







The start of the work






This next one gives you an idea of the quality of the previous paint job, car was originally green and evidently had a sticker on the bonnet. They just smoothed over this with filler and then gave it some more paint. Hey presto a real s**t job. :cheers:



....and it gets worse!









Always happy to post pictures of progress, as long as people are interested. :)

The car will be going back red. 8)

Stopped in today to collect the dash, it has a bad crack from years in the sun. There is an excellent leather restorer who I used in the past, it will be going to him tomorrow after I clean up the inside of it tonight at home.

You would not believe the amount of paint and filler that was on the car, the bags of debris after stripping the roof probably weighed about 8kg.

Some panels have arrived this morning, small repair sections from classic Alfa, the remainder of the parts are all coming from Alfaholics. I have gone for glass fiber bonnet, boot and spare wheel well, the more weight out of the car the better. I am told they are really good quality and should not be an issue in terms of paint.

Front Panel Late GT/GTV
Door Skin Steel GT Left
Door Skin Steel GT Right
Boot Floor - GT
Alfaholics Glass Fibre Spare Wheel Well
Rear Panel 1300/1600/1750 GT & GTV
Alfaholics Glass Fibre Bonnet
Alfaholics Glass Fibre Bootlid
Outer Door Handle Pair- GT/GTV
GT Rear Side Window Catch - LEFT
GT Rear Side Window Catch - RIGHT
Outer Sill - GT Left
Outer Sill - GT Right
GT Main Door Seal
GT Main Door Seal Right

Some pictures.

The car has had an impact from the rear and the front at some point, all of this will get sorted, new panels and existing straightened.













Look at how thick the filler is. :shock:









 

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Should also mention the gearbox will be coming out as well, it grinds going into second gear. I have heard this is common on the box.
 

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I'm interested, keep it coming !!
(Make sure and check the structure behind those patches .. The sills are notorious for rusting from the inside out)

I have the same car (and issues) although I knew what I was getting into having owned a few Alfa's over the years. It's nice to see one sans the bumpers, I'd like to take mine off too but the other half is still in love with her.

My GTJunior has her original 1600engine, but I have to say it's a bit lifeless compared to the 2litre in my Duetto (sacrilege I know, it was missing originally, the junior was bought for her engine number and they're being swapped at some stage). I also have a twin spark in the shed when/if life allows.

Personally prefer the simpler front end and lack of interior clutter.

My partner loves the GTJunior, they're both keepers and well worth all the effort :)

 

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Wow...it's amazing how a 10 footer can be hiding all sorts of evil underneath. Please keep the pictures coming for the thread. Look forward to the final result!
 

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Nice cars



I'm interested, keep it coming !!
(Make sure and check the structure behind those patches .. The sills are notorious for rusting from the inside out)

I have the same car (and issues) although I knew what I was getting into having owned a few Alfa's over the years. It's nice to see one sans the bumpers, I'd like to take mine off too but the other half is still in love with her.

My GTJunior has her original 1600engine, but I have to say it's a bit lifeless compared to the 2litre in my Duetto (sacrilege I know, it was missing originally, the junior was bought for her engine number and they're being swapped at some stage). I also have a twin spark in the shed when/if life allows.

Personally prefer the simpler front end and lack of interior clutter.

My partner loves the GTJunior, they're both keepers and well worth all the effort :)



 

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yes. keep the pictures coming - with all its faults its still an amazing car, and the more people will fix them right the more their value will increase hence justifying the money put in to it. I really like the GTJ single headlight look
 

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Wow, this is a salutary tale and as a lot of SA cars are being imported into the UK right now because the Rand is so low, it should be mandatory reading for anyone that is tempted by the "rust free SA car" adverts that are prevalent in the UK right now. Glad to see you are prepared to put the effort into getting her in good shape (and have the funds to do it as well!).

I got Alfaholics to tweak my car with a Fast Road B kit and also to rebuild and retune the carbs and it drives superbly now.
 

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All of the oily bits are in good shape and the work that Alfaholics did on the suspension and brakes is superb.

Its only right that the body reflect how good the car drives. The value of the car in the market doesn't warrant the spend but that's the market, the car drives as well as some early 911's I have driven. Value is a funny thing sometimes.

I am keen to do as good a job as possible on the car and enjoy it.







 
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