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Hi I need one of these and they seem unbelievably expensive from the usual Alfa suppliers and wondered if what the part was and whether it was used in any other cars. I'm happy to use a 2nd hand one if in good condition but £350 ($550) seems extortionate.

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Hi Chris I thought it sounded high too, so I had a look at Classic Alfa and they are selling them for about £115 - not sure who quoted you three times that? Still not cheap, but much better!

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Has anyone replaced the complete clutch and brake pedals say for racing on the standing pedals car?

As this may be a better/less expensive option.

something like this?
 

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I have been looking at using something like that for my car .....But it does take a fair bit of modification .
Any time you install something like that it's going to take a fair bit of modification. I'm not telling you not to do it - but if your primary goal is to spend less than the cost of an original-type cylinder, I doubt this is the solution. The pedals + cylinders kit probably costs more than the price of a replacement MC. And, adapting the brake lines to the non-original cylinders is going to take some more money and time.

A racer may justify the additional investment because the aftermarket pedal assembly probably incorporates some sort of a bias adjustment. And a race car builder is probably re-making the brake lines anyways
 

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I have been looking at using something like that for my car so I can get away from the single cct system . Who sells the one in the photo ?

There is a kit Clutch/Brake Conversion Kit to Tilton, Alfas w/Floor Pedals - Spruell Motorsport, Inc - Performance Your Store for Sports Car Performance and Racing Parts

But it does take a fair bit of modification .
I saw these at Demon Tweeks it's a racing website in the UK. The reason for possibly going this way was the fact that the replacement dual brake cylinder apparently has problems anyway and also costs £350 ($560) so is quite expensive. If paying a little more I get much better brakes for the odd track day then I would prefer to do that. The brake lines in the Alfa I'm doing will need replacing anyway.

Optimum Balance Products Universal Floor Mounted 2 Pedal Assembly | Pedal Box Assemblies & Balance Bars | Braking | Motorsport Shop | Demon Tweeks

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Alfanut1750 said:
Also is the picture correct as it looks like they are using hanging pedals.
Yea, the one on the Spruell site is for hanging pedals, but what Demon Tweeks offers is for standing pedals. See: http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Braking/Pedal_Box_Assemblies_Balance_Bars/Optimum_Balance_Products_Universal_Floor_Mounted_2_Pedal_Assembly/1723/3511

The product description reads:

Optimum Balance Products Universal Floor Mounted 2 Pedal Assembly
An Easy to Fit 2 Pedal Floor Mounted Pedal Box complete with a balance bar to give a fully adjustable braking system using 2 master cylinders. This versatile system is suitable for race or road cars and is very popular with kit cars and specials....Master cylinders are not included and are sold separately. See accessories for options.


The price is 122 GBP.

Note that this thing is not specific to an Alfa - it's a universal part. "Easy to Fit" may be a relative term.
 

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There some other choices, Chris. First, if you cyl. has fairly recently strated leaking (i.e., isn't too rusty) you may be able to successfully rebuild with an appropriate kit. Some people can do this well while others can't. If you're in the latter cateogry (I am) than I'd suggest that you take the cyl. w/ kit to a "brake and clutch" firm which specializes in rebuilding brakes and clutches. :) Over here, they mostly do work on heavy equipment, big trucks, etc. but for them, if the cyl. isn't rusty, rebuilding is easy. My local company quoted a $15US labor charge if I supplied the kit and a good cyl.

Your second choice is to find a company that resleeves brake components for collectors cars. If the casing isn't cracked, they can repair your oem master cyl. to new condition.

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There some other choices, Chris. First, if you cyl. has fairly recently strated leaking (i.e., isn't too rusty) you may be able to successfully rebuild with an appropriate kit. Some people can do this well while others can't. If you're in the latter cateogry (I am) than I'd suggest that you take the cyl. w/ kit to a "brake and clutch" firm which specializes in rebuilding brakes and clutches. :) Over here, they mostly do work on heavy equipment, big trucks, etc. but for them, if the cyl. isn't rusty, rebuilding is easy. My local company quoted a $15US labor charge if I supplied the kit and a good cyl.

Your second choice is to find a company that resleeves brake components for collectors cars. If the casing isn't cracked, they can repair your oem master cyl. to new condition.

Good luck.

The problem I have is the car didn't come with any master cylinder at all!
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Send a note to Papajam via PM. He might have what your looking for.
 

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I feel your pain, I have recently bought a new dual circuit master cylinder from EB Spares in the UK. They were the cheapest I could find at the time. It transformed the braking performance of the car after putting up with a dodgy one for years and several attempts at rebuilding it.
The only alternative I found is the adjustable ballance box set up from Alfaholics. This would require some of the brakelines to be re-routed I think. You can also run without boosters on this set up, which may work out cheaper in the long run (if your boosters need attention).
I went for the standard set up as I have working boosters and here in New Zealand any modifications need to be certified which is an addition expense.
 

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brake master cylinder

Hallo Chris,
i have a new one .I bought it some years ago for my GTAm racecar in GB from a company,they told them self as "Alfa specialists". I will not tell the name, but they are well known here in AlfaBB . But it does not fit !!! The brakelines touch the gearbox! So i could not use it. price is 250 Euro , i paid more for it! See foto. If you are interested , please pm.

regards Uli
 

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Hallo Chris,
i have a new one .I bought it some years ago for my GTAm racecar in GB from a company,they told them self as "Alfa specialists". I will not tell the name, but they are well known here in AlfaBB . But it does not fit !!! The brakelines touch the gearbox! So i could not use it. price is 250 Euro , i paid more for it! See foto. If you are interested , please pm.

regards Uli
Thanks for the offer, but I think I will be going down the route of an uprated one.

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I would have thought that the easiest solution would be to convert to a 'single circuit standing pedal setup'. Master cylinder is circa £100. Just use one of your servo's and then you also only have to renew half the brake pipes between the master cyl and the servo and reservior. I have done this on my spider and its fine. The only slight difficulty is getting one of the reservior feeds into the top of the master as it faces upwards. Just need quite a tight radius on the pipe. Alfaholics helped me with this conversion when I was having brake issues.
 

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1971 GTV Bertone standing pedal brakes.Someone messed up & put the wrong hard lines to the boosters.Which pressure ports go to which booster,a diagram of the system would be great if anyone can help. ALFA79
 
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