[nealric]

So much for "only factory original gets the big money..."

I think Alfaholics and the broader restomod craze (see also Singer on the Porsche side) has changed that. But only the "big name" restomods get the big bucks. Homebuilt examples tend not to fetch those prices (even if well done and built with high quality parts) I think the fact that the motor was actually built by Alfaholics helps.

Keep in mind that the GTA-R waiting list is approaching 10 years long and you are going to spend close to $500k in the end. While this car didn't quite get the full GTA-R treatment, it does serve to reason that an Alfaholics built car you can drive home today would get into the six figures.

 

[pescara]

I don't understand the concept "injection with carburetor", or I miss something ?
For me you have carburetors or injection, not both.

 

[nealric]

I don't understand the concept "injection with carburetor", or I miss something ?
For me you have carburetors or injection, not both.

It's using fuel injection throttle bodies that are made to look like carburetors. These:

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[pescara]

I learned something, thank you

 

[pescara]

cool stuff, the ideal would be to hide all the new electrical system which is visible outside the carburetor area.

 

[gprocket]

cool stuff, the ideal would be to hide all the new electrical system which is visible outside the carburetor area.

Like this...

 

[PSk]

I think Alfaholics and the broader restomod craze (see also Singer on the Porsche side) has changed that. But only the "big name" restomods get the big bucks. Homebuilt examples tend not to fetch those prices (even if well done and built with high quality parts) I think the fact that the motor was actually built by Alfaholics helps.

Keep in mind that the GTA-R waiting list is approaching 10 years long and you are going to spend close to $500k in the end. While this car didn't quite get the full GTA-R treatment, it does serve to reason that an Alfaholics built car you can drive home today would get into the six figures.

How many 105s are Alfaholics going to ruin over those 10 years ... oh well thankfully Alfa made more than 20 of these wonderful cars
Pete

 

[classicalfas]

Injection that looks like carbs? Now that’s cheating! My carbs look like carbs because they are carbs.

 

[GTA Alfa]

I believe we (all Alfa Romeo owners and enthusiasts) have Alfaholics to thank for putting 105 and 115 cars (and other models for this matter) on the map, and making these cars what they are today... fun, appreciated, valuable and respected. If you don't agree with me, that's fine, this is my opinion only.

 

[Doraiba]

How many 105s are Alfaholics going to ruin over those 10 years ... oh well thankfully Alfa made more than 20 of these wonderful cars
Pete

Ruin? As someone who rode shotgun in Max's personal GTA-R 290, I can attest that "ruin" is the antithesis of what Alfaholics does.

Alfa Romeo literally made hundreds of thousands of 105/115s. Unjustifiably dislike what Alfaholics does? Go buy one and do whatever you want to with it. Alfaholics has done wonders for enthusiasts.

 

[nealric]

Ruin? As someone who rode shotgun in Max's personal GTA-R 290, I can attest that "ruin" is the antithesis of what Alfaholics does.

Alfa Romeo literally made hundreds of thousands of 105/115s. Unjustifiably dislike what Alfaholics does? Go buy one and do whatever you want to with it. Alfaholics has done wonders for enthusiasts, certainly more than you'll ever contribute.

There is no reason to be an insufferable purist.

Some people do ruin cars with modifications, but hardly every modified car is.

I get wanting to keep truly rare cars stock. Nobody is going to restomod a 250 GTO- too rare and valuable. But there were enough 105/115 cars produced that there’s room for the purists and the restomod crowd to do as they wish. Many of the restomodded cars are ones that might otherwise ended up as piles of iron oxide (or were well on their way before they were restomodded). Surely a restomod is a better fate than the scrap heap.

 

[PSk]

Ruin? As someone who rode shotgun in Max's personal GTA-R 290, I can attest that "ruin" is the antithesis of what Alfaholics does.

Alfa Romeo literally made hundreds of thousands of 105/115s. Unjustifiably dislike what Alfaholics does? Go buy one and do whatever you want to with it. Alfaholics has done wonders for enthusiasts.

When I say ruin, I mean they can't be returned back to stock if a future owner so decides.
Putting carbon panels on a GT is I believe unreturnable. With that model, I think they've gone a little too far. Their quality is undeniable and I buy parts happily from them.

And I do own one and doing what I like to it

BTW I think many people overstate how many of these cars Alfa Romeo made. It's not hundreds of thousands, but closer to 100 thousand
Pete

 

[nealric]

When I say ruin, I mean they can't be returned back to stock if a future owner so decides.

Putting carbon panels on a GT is I believe unreturnable. With that model, I think they've gone a little too far. Their quality is undeniable and I buy parts happily from them.

Ànd I do own one and doing what I like to it

BTW I think many people overstate how many of these cars Alfa Romeo made. It's not hundreds of thousands, but closer to 100 thousand
Pete

I don’t think we are ever going to run out of stock ones. And the carbon panels don’t change the look or function of the car, so I’m not sure why someone would want to. Very few of the GTA-Rs have integral carbon panels. Most just have hood/trunk lid and maybe doors. You could undo those if you wanted.

 

[PSk]

Okay, apologies.

Note they only made 44,000 1750 GTVs total. Thankfully they made 91,000 1300 GT Juniors because of the remaining 50%, 40% of those would be GTA replicas or look-a-likes. We are not talking Ford Mustangs here. Ford would have made that number in a week or 2
Pete

 

[gprocket]

I don't think we'll run out but I speak from experience that they are getting harder to find. More than one i regret parting that were in better shape than what we start with these days...

 

[Del]

Was a real bidding war, someone paying a lot more than it is worth?

 

[gprocket]

Was a real bidding war, someone paying a lot more than it is worth?

To recreate it would likely cost as much. Whether it's worth what was paid is far more subjective.

BTW, looking at the auctions that the buyer has won recently is interesting - he's got expensive taste...

 

[nealric]

Okay, apologies.

Note they only made 44,000 1750 GTVs total. Thankfully they made 91,000 1300 GT Juniors because of the remaining 50%, 40% of those would be GTA replicas or look-a-likes. We are not talking Ford Mustangs here. Ford would have made that number in a week or 2
Pete

Don't forget 25,000 GTV 2000s. Not like Mustangs where they literally made millions, but I'd say 160k is a pretty healthy production run for a sports coupe.

 

[PSk]

Don't forget 25,000 GTV 2000s. Not like Mustangs where they literally made millions, but I'd say 160k is a pretty healthy production run for a sports coupe.

50%, at least, would have been crashed or rusted away by now ... but yeah, they are just cars
Pete

 

[nealric]

50%, at least, would have been crashed or rusted away by now ... but yeah, they are just cars
Pete

To be fair, probably even more than that. There are more sports car survivors than regular car survivors (I see more GTVs than Pintos around even though they made a million Pintos). But I’d be surprised if there are more than 30k GTs in either driveable or restorable condition today. If so, that’s still a lot given that they are such a niche market.