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Getting ready to sell my eleven. 1956 series 1, currently unassembled. Car can be sold as-is, assembled, or fully restored. It won't go cheap. all aluminum bodywork, fresh FWB, all the parts to make it go. 10#/hp. Iconic sports racer from the '50's. PM if you are interested and able.
 

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Stan, not sure what your plans are for selling the XI but I had an excellent experience with my Twin Cam MGA on BringaTrailer, uninformed peanut gallery comments aside (which I didn't read, but which people told me about). Had just the right kind of buyer within a couple days, good communication, and the car was down the road within a week.
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Hi Stan,
I'm a Lotus restorer and racer and Alfa nut, I must ask if you will sell this to an Aussie?
I have a Brabham Alfa and 3 Elites plus the Siffert Lotus 22
Please contact me with the price you wish to achieve for the Eleven and we can go from there.
Thanks
Bruce.
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I looked at the photo bucket album, and it is a bit like looking at pictures of a factory from miles in the air. Lots of parts, but I can not tell how they go together because I have never seen the whole car other than the previous pictures you have posted. Do you have a complete car? If not what is missing? What is the driveline condition? How much new fabrication is required? Asking price as is,or as a roller,or as afinished runner? What do I need to know or ask to be up to speed on the info highway? Table. David
 

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Everything appears to be a bunch of parts. I cannot tell the status of the vehicle without some further information. There are disassembled engine components, and final assembled engine, for example. There are photos of the body missing panels, and then photos including the panels. What is the status of the vehicle? Why do you list several conditions of completion for purchasing? I am very interested in obtaining more information and you pricing too.
 

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The above photos show the car as it was delivered from the UK. I woud describe it as a roller. the frame is complete and correct, the undertray and transmission tunnel are riveted in place. the nose, tail, and scuttle are currently removed for storage, but all are new or restored (nose). A full set of photos on the photobucket album show the nose being rebuilt by a restorer in UK, and there is a pic of the nose in original condition to compare to. there are many metalshapers who can re-create an eleven body, I believe the last time I looked a full set ran around $17,000.

The engine is complete and a brand-new build up by an engine specialist in the UK. It is built from a climax pump, which is pretty standard, as it shares the block with the automotive climax engines. the pump crank was replaced with a billet crank ($2000), new pistons and liners, distributor to replace the pump magneto, oil filter fitted, automotive oil pump, Dynamo drive pully from billet to reduce rotation (pump dynamo spinns too fast at automotive RPM's) , new cams, engine ported and polished, balanced, set up for weber DCOE40's, new clutch, billet Flywheel, correct transmission-mounting bracket. This engine should put out about 90-100 hp, and turn 6000 rpms. what I have described is a typical Coventry Climax FWB (1500cc) engine, and is currently the engine of choice for vintage events. they run $8000-$10,000 as built. I can sell the car without an engine, or with an FWE (1220 cc). I have a spare FWE crank in the pics which is not part of the sale unless you choose the FWE option (less hp and torque, but revs to 8000 rpm). The Valve cover is an extra, complete with the Godiva badge. The pictured Distributor is for the engine, it is just not mounted in storage. I don't think there are any other engine parts to account for. The engine pictured is complete and ready to run, as is. There are 5 transmissions and tranny housings in various states of repair. orignal elevens use a box sourced from an Austin sedan of the period. A sprite box is a typical upgrade. I'm sure at least one gearbox will work as is. one box is a close-ratio box, that one needs to be rebuilt, but the gear-set alone is crazy expensive. 3 steering racks, set of wires,

what is missing? right now, I can think of it needing a set of front shocks (Spax) and steering linkage, both easily sourced. Have to check whether brake MC is there, again, easily sourced or upgraded. What you see in pics is about 99% of a complete eleven. edit- has front shocks
As for pricing, I am happy to discuss privately. As Andrew points out above, there are lots of experts, most of whom have no interest or ability to purchase such a car, but they are willing to share their expertice. A fully restored eleven to Le Mans spec should be worth in the vicinity of $100k, and any eleven can be built up to that spec without suffering a penalty in valuation. Car does not have a chassis plate, but is known and verified as authentic by the eleven registrar of the historic lotus register, Vic Thomas. I will provide authentication to serious buyers. Total number of cars built was around 275, of which 150 or so are series 1 cars. there are many copies of elevens sold as originals, chassis numbers falsely claimed, and pedigrees filched, so without chassis number or verified pedigree, authentication is critical. When I purchased the car, it was in the possesion of Vic, who acted as intermediary in the sale. Someone with ties to the UK might be able to track down the car's early history, which would be worth around $10,000 to the value in my opinion, and much more if it had a famous owner, driver, or race history.
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eleven info

If anyone is interested in finding out more about these cars, I suggest checking out http://www.lotuseleven.org/ , a web site run by Jay Sloan, and the Historic Lotus Register, which has a very good magazine. Links to HLR can be found a Jay's site.

If you are seriously interested in purchasing my car, as many have been, send a PM. I can sell the car as a restoration project, or as a full restoration ready to race. An eleven would be welcome at any vintage event short of Monterey and LeMans. Might take some effort to make the grid on those 2
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Car has passed inspection and authentication, and will be on its' way to Australia, where it will get the attention of Bruce Mansell. Not sure how a lotus guy finds this notice on an alfa BB, but bruce is well-respected as a top Lotus Elite expert, and will add the eleven to his racing fleet. Good luck Bruce and Warwick.

thanks for all who expressed interest.
 

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Congrats Stan. Bittersweet I'm sure. Should pay for a few semesters @ HSU ;).
 

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The buyer passed on the engine, but I got what I needed to get out of it. I've still got a westfield body and a bunch of parts for a series 2 eleven replica, now a climax engine to go with it. softens the blow.

you're going to have a new neighbor in a couple of years, kyle put HSU and CR at the top of his list
 
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