Lost my last key for door lock........

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Joe Papa Sr

Discussion Starter · Nov 24, 2007

Any way of getting a code for my key for my door lock? 87 spider.

Thanks, Joe

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Pat Braden

· #2 · Nov 25, 2007

Lost My Last Key for Door Lock.....

Joe Papa Sr said:
Any way of getting a code for my key for my door lock? 87 spider.

Thanks, Joe

You'll probably end up taking the lock to a locksmith and having one made unless you know of an Alfa dealership that kept that information by vin. # like many of the manufacturers/dealerships have access to and won't release short of your birth certificate and proof that you were born in the U.S. because so many cars were stolen that way.

My keys have a metal tag on them with the stamped code, but if that has been lost, you'll have to rely on the vin. # or if you have friends with spiders, have them try their keys, if you get lucky and find one that works, you'll then know which key you need without removing the lock.

One other thought, if you have Triple A they will make you a plasticized key that has limited number of uses, but you could take that to a locksmith and have a new one made.

Zunige

· #3 · Nov 25, 2007

As Cheryl suggested: locksmith. Ask one of the auto repair shops near you for a recommendation...

Best regards,

Joe Papa Sr

Discussion Starter · #4 · Nov 26, 2007

Good advice. Wow, plastic? I have AAA. I will look into it, then go to locksmiths.....

ghnl

· #5 · Nov 26, 2007

I've read that there is supposed to be a code on the lock cylinder. I was lacking a door key when I bought our '84 Spider. (The L&R locks were not the same - likely a repair was made sometime in its past.)

My research also indicates there are 4 possible key blanks for the door locks. A local locksmith that had made me a key from scratch for our MGB did not have any blanks to fit the Alfa. And the one door key I had (for the passenger side door) did not fit into the driver's side lock - thus a different blank.

I removed the lock cylinders and searched but didn't find any external evidence of a 'code'. I ended up swapping the locks L -> R so I would have a key for the driver's door (and can lock the passenger's door from inside when needed).

I did get some copies made by Key 4 Classics. I emailed them some close-up photos of the keys I had (one door and one ignition key) and they made some perfect copies.

kunzman

· #6 · Nov 26, 2007

Lock door from inside on a Spider?

ghnl said:
. . .I removed the lock cylinders and searched but didn't find any external evidence of a 'code'. I ended up swapping the locks L -> R so I would have a key for the driver's door (and can lock the passenger's door from inside when needed). . .

How do you lock the passenger door from the inside. My 1990 Spider does not have any type of inside door lock.

Then again, I would never lock it as someone would just cut my nice top if they wanted in.

Zunige

· #7 · Nov 26, 2007

kunzman said:
How do you lock the passenger door from the inside. My 1990 Spider does not have any type of inside door lock. ...

There is no inside lock. Instead of using the handle (lever) to open the door, go in the opposite direction. There's no click or anything to indicate that you just locked the door. The handle will move back to it's original position as if you had done nothing, but the door is actually locked. Go outside and double check that the door is locked and you will see what I mean. When the door is locked and you take open it from the inside, there is also no prior indication that it was locked. It just opens.

Best regards,

Pat Braden

· #8 · Nov 26, 2007

Lost My Last Key for Door Lock.....

Zunige said:
There is no inside lock. Instead of using the handle (lever) to open the door, go in the opposite direction. There's no click or anything to indicate that you just locked the door. The handle will move back to it's original position as if you had done nothing, but the door is actually locked. Go outside and double check that the door is locked and you will see what I mean. When the door is locked and you take open it from the inside, there is also no prior indication that it was locked. It just opens.

Best regards,

If I'm not mistaken, that locking mechanism was developed before the 90s. The sedans had locks that you could push down but some of the spiders did not; they utilized pushing the door handle forward.

Nicola

· #9 · Nov 26, 2007

Perzactly

kunzman said:
Then again, I would never lock it as someone would just cut my nice top if they wanted in.

Why would anybody risk a +-$700 top by locking a Spider?
Put your valuables in the trunk - locked or unlocked, most don't know how to access a Spider trunk anyway

...
Then walk away.

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Joe Papa Sr

Discussion Starter · #10 · Nov 27, 2007

ghnl said:
I've read that there is supposed to be a code on the lock cylinder. I was lacking a door key when I bought our '84 Spider. (The L&R locks were not the same - likely a repair was made sometime in its past.)

My research also indicates there are 4 possible key blanks for the door locks. A local locksmith that had made me a key from scratch for our MGB did not have any blanks to fit the Alfa. And the one door key I had (for the passenger side door) did not fit into the driver's side lock - thus a different blank.

I removed the lock cylinders and searched but didn't find any external evidence of a 'code'. I ended up swapping the locks L -> R so I would have a key for the driver's door (and can lock the passenger's door from inside when needed).

I did get some copies made by Key 4 Classics. I emailed them some close-up photos of the keys I had (one door and one ignition key) and they made some perfect copies.

This is ok if you have a key for a copy to be made, but I have none left.

Joe Papa Sr

Discussion Starter · #11 · Nov 27, 2007 (Edited)

Also, called AAA today. They dont ,make a key from plastic that would/could actually work, even temporarily for a car, they told me. So, this avenue is dead....They said something like "they make a plastic key blank in case one would need it to make a copy", which confused me to death. So I said "Oh, thank you".....

Im thinking, who needs one anyway (locksmith wants $75), heck with it. Not going to spend that when I never lock the car cuz its a convertible......

Will just have to take out my Inca Peruvian Pottery Artifacts out with me anywhere I go.....LOL

Pat Braden

· #12 · Nov 27, 2007

Lost My Last Key for the Door Lock....

Joe Papa Sr said:
Also, called AAA today. They dont ,make a key from plastic that would/could actually work, even temporarily for a car, they told me. So, this avenue is dead....They said something like "they make a plastic key blank in case one would need it to make a copy", which confused me to death. So I said "Oh, thank you".....

Im thinking, who needs one anyway (locksmith wants $75), heck with it. Not going to spend that when I never lock the car cuz its a convertible......

Will just have to take out my Inca Peruvian Pottery Artifacts out with me anywhere I go.....LOL

In California Triple A gives you a punch out plastic key that you can carry in your wallet for a one or two time use if you get locked out of your car. It's like carrying an extra credit card except the key punches out of the center and it's that kind of durable plastic. Apparently, where you live they do not do that.

Sorry....for getting your hopes up.

Zunige

· #13 · Nov 27, 2007

Joe Papa Sr said:
...Will just have to take out my Inca Peruvian Pottery Artifacts out with me anywhere I go.....LOL

It is illegal to have real pottery outside of Peru! You don't want to get placed on the same Interpol list that Fuji (short for Fujimori

) got on, do you?

Best regards,

Joe Papa Sr

Discussion Starter · #14 · Nov 27, 2007 (Edited)

Pat Braden said:
In California Triple A gives you a punch out plastic key that you can carry in your wallet for a one or two time use if you get locked out of your car. It's like carrying an extra credit card except the key punches out of the center and it's that kind of durable plastic. Apparently, where you live they do not do that.

Sorry....for getting your hopes up.

You know, Cheryl, Im gonna call those people up again and give them a piece of my mind......Im gonna ask for the branch manager and take it all the way to Washington, if need be. Im a AAA member, and feel Im getting the short end of the stick, here. I'll update you.......TOM0RROW!!!

Joe Papa Sr

Discussion Starter · #15 · Nov 27, 2007

Zunige said:
It is illegal to have real pottery outside of Peru! You don't want to get placed on the same Interpol list that Fuji (short for Fujimori ) got on, do you?

Best regards,

OOps...ahem (clearing throat, choking slightly), thhhhhhhhose are actually replicas....decoys, that I have. (wiping sweat beads from eyebrows).......

Peter

· #16 · Nov 28, 2007

Not to hijack this thread, but I think Joe Papa Sr has what he needs, and I have often thought about this, and I think others may also.
I have no key whatsoever with my Duetto, except for the ignition key. I understand the door key was separate/different, and I would like to have them made, just to have them in case I ever need to sell her. Added benefit would be that I would then have a trunk and glove box key as well, and they ARE useful. I can see how the trunk key could be the same as the door key, but the glove box key may need to be different, does anyone know?

GTV-GR

· #17 · Nov 28, 2007

Other spider/giulia gt/alfetta/gtv keys will fit for sure
Ask me how i "stole" an abandoned alfetta long long time ago...

Zunige

· #18 · Nov 28, 2007

Peter said:
...I have no key whatsoever with my Duetto, except for the ignition key. I understand the door key was separate/different, and I would like to have them made, just to have them in case I ever need to sell her. Added benefit would be that I would then have a trunk and glove box key as well, and they ARE useful. I can see how the trunk key could be the same as the door key, but the glove box key may need to be different, does anyone know?

The glove box, trunk and door keys were and should be the same... All Spiders came with one key for the ignition, and another for everything else.

Best regards,

Joe Papa Sr

Discussion Starter · #19 · Nov 30, 2007

Peter said:
Not to hijack this thread, but I think Joe Papa Sr has what he needs, and I have often thought about this, and I think others may also.
I have no key whatsoever with my Duetto, except for the ignition key. I understand the door key was separate/different, and I would like to have them made, just to have them in case I ever need to sell her. Added benefit would be that I would then have a trunk and glove box key as well, and they ARE useful. I can see how the trunk key could be the same as the door key, but the glove box key may need to be different, does anyone know?

Hmmmm, I dont follow that....."I have what I need"? What do I have? I dont have a key anymore for my car door. BTW, there is no trunk key for an 87 spid. Cable latch release only.

Joe Papa Sr

Discussion Starter · #20 · Nov 30, 2007

Zunige said:
The glove box, trunk and door keys were and should be the same... All Spiders came with one key for the ignition, and another for everything else.

Best regards,

Yeah, but Enrique, The key is GONE. Yes, that key unlocked glove box/door, but it is lost in space.

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