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Hello Everyone,

I have always been a car guy. Mostly amercian muscle was my thing.

Now that I'm older and the gas prices are just ridiculous I have decided to go with sophistication on a tight budget. hopefully an Alfa can fit the bill. My best friend has been an Alfa owner for 35 years and He has influenced this decision greatly.

I love GTVs but they are few and a bit too pricey for my budget. I figure I will end up with a Spider. Rust free is the key. I like the earlier models.

It seems Spiders are much more expensive up here than in the U.S.

I have done some research and understand the basic things to look for in these cars.

I would appreciate your advice and opinions. As well as any possible cars you may know of.

Thank you!
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Hi Kyle. I hear you about GTV's. However, I think I have the car for you. 1994 Spider Commemorative #186 of 190. Beautiful. It is currently in storage in Montreal. Auto Bugatti has maintained it for me. It was in great condition when I bought it but I've done lots of work to it, some of it required but mostly to make it showroom. Engine bay is pristine. Nothing to do but insure and drive. No rust, reliable, smooth and a joy to drive. Although I love the car I am looking for something in a V-8 and would love to see 'Sophia' go to a great home. Check the pictures on the Auto Bugatti site or my description on this forum, which is more comprehensive. I will take more pictures as soon as I take it out of storage this week. It does not see cloudy days, let alone rain. Maybe you have an American Muscle car to trade? [email protected]. Regards, Joseph
 

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Prices are definitely better in the US, especially with the current exchange rate. Have you considered buying from eastern states, NY, Boston etc. As long as the car is 15 years old, there is no customs restriction. However, duty and taxes kick in, but shouldn't be too bad on a $6-7,000 car. Good luck and keep us posted. James
 

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Hello Everyone,

I have always been a car guy. Mostly amercian muscle was my thing.

Now that I'm older and the gas prices are just ridiculous I have decided to go with sophistication on a tight budget. hopefully an Alfa can fit the bill. My best friend has been an Alfa owner for 35 years and He has influenced this decision greatly.

I love GTVs but they are few and a bit too pricey for my budget. I figure I will end up with a Spider. Rust free is the key. I like the earlier models.

It seems Spiders are much more expensive up here than in the U.S.

I have done some research and understand the basic things to look for in these cars.

I would appreciate your advice and opinions. As well as any possible cars you may know of.

Thank you!
Kyle
Hi Kyle,
I'm assuming when you say 'GTV' you are talking about pre-1975, as those can be quite pricey. This thought may take a while to percolate, but you may want to consider stretching your 'GTV' definition to perhaps include: Alfetta GTV Coupes and GTV6s. These are still reasonably plentiful and priced.

I'm located about an hour an a half south of you, in Vermont. You are welcome to stop by and look over (and go for a spin) in my 3.0 GTV6 summer ride. That one's not for sale. But if GTV6s then became a consideration... I do have a rust-free shell and tons of parts, if you ever wanted a project.

Cheers,
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Joseph, your car is a beauty, but way out of my budget.

James, Thanks. I would consider a NY, VT, ME, NH car.

Peter, thanks for the offer, but my reference is the Pre-75 GTV 2000/1750s.
 

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There's a 72 Spider in Ontario that seems to be in fairly good shape. Seems to have been well maintained and photos look good. I know they can be deceiving. It's quite far, but I like the early models and there are none locally. Only 78 and up.

Here are the photos received so far from the seller.
Stuff pictures by RockinZ - Photobucket
 

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Hi Kyle. What's your budget? Maybe I can help find something. The key is well maintained from new with certified specialists and to stay on top of it. Friends have purchased great 'deals' only to find they have to put it way too much money, especially if you cannot do the work yourself. Labour costs will add up quickly. Joseph
 

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Hi Kyle. What's your budget? Maybe I can help find something. The key is well maintained from new with certified specialists and to stay on top of it. Friends have purchased great 'deals' only to find they have to put it way too much money, especially if you cannot do the work yourself. Labour costs will add up quickly. Joseph
Hi Joseph Budget is 8000. I can do the work myself. I cut my teeth on rebuilding my two second gen Z28s. changed the entire drive train on each. Installed one differential gear, assembled & installed both engines, installed rear leafs myself.

There is a 72 GTV 2000 in Quebec city with detailed maintenance records from 1977 to today. I love those cars. He's firm at 10k however. may need Funny how the GTVs seem cheaper here than the US. Theres Vincent123's GTV as well. he's at 13k neg. His car looks pretty darn rust free.
 

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Hi Kyle. Sounds like a solid couple of leads on great cars. I find most cars more expensive in Canada and some cars are more expensive in Quebec. Strange. Still have the Z-28's? Joseph
 

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Hi Kyle. Sounds like a solid couple of leads on great cars. I find most cars more expensive in Canada and some cars are more expensive in Quebec. Strange. Still have the Z-28's? Joseph
No, I just sold my 81. It was hard to sell and I basically gave it away. The engine was a 400 small block bored .030 over. I hopped it up to the max for the street with 570 hp. It was a killer engine - too much for me. I overdid it.

But I learned a ton doing it. Ready for some Italian race cars now.:D
 

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Hello Kyle! I am just about to list my 1969 Alfa Spider for sale on the website when I saw your message. I have a 1969 red Alfa Spider for sale in Ottawa. The car has had extensive work done to it during the Winter of 2008-09.

Work includes:
-complete engine rebuild (1750 cc motor)
-fuel injection system rebuilt
-new floor pans in the passenger compartment
-new rocker panels (inner, middle and outer)
-new lower nose
-new top, tires and battery
-new seat pans, seat cushions (bottoms), upholstery, door panels, carpets
-new brake boosters (2)
-new clutch
-wheels powder-coated

The body was stripped to bare metal, metal patches (no filler) were installed as needed and the car was repainted in red.

Have all receipts for work and pictures. $30K spent not including cost of car. I'm looking for $18,500.

This car was not built to be a "trailer queen" but to be a good solid driver. You can contact me at [email protected]

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Kyle,

have you seen this one?

1978 Alfa Romeo Spider Convertible - Montréal Collector Cars For Sale - Kijiji Montréal Canada.

Photos look very clean, price is realistic, and while I'm not usually a fan of carb conversions (I have 2 SPICA cars), this one seems to have been done very thoughfully, even including a Euro cold air box, which we don't see all that often on carb conversions.

No relation to the seller.
Yes! Thanks for keeping an eye out for me.

I saw it this morning it looks quite nice. I spoke to the owner today. It is not out of storage yet. He will call me for a test drive this week. The guy knows the entire history of the car. He worked at the garage where is was serviced. This one is very close to me. I am also very interested in the 87 Graduate I posted earlier. There are quite a few popping up now.

Here are some more photos of the Graduate.
1987 Graduate pictures by RockinZ - Photobucket
 

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I borrowed the bible and other books from my Alfanut friend.
I discovered that the chassis was stiffened and power had increased by 1987. Does the S3 really handle much better that the S2?
 

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UPDATE: I'm in!
Bought the 78 spider. It has original floors and is solid as a rock. Euro conversion done to the engine including throttle and choke. Which I was told by the P.O. to never use. PO is an Alfa mechanic who used to work at Salvatore in St-Jean.
 

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Alright Kyle! ...how about getting together with the other Alfisti in the MTL area to help kickstart the MTL chapter of the ARCC?

Now that you're a Spider Alfista....you might want to subscribe to the Spider Forum and post your questions there. I'm sure you'll get all the feedback you'll ever want from the folks in that forum.
 

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Thanks Rossano,

I posted a message in the Thread discussing the MTL area.

Where can I find the Spider forum?

Thanks
Kyle
 
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