[racingswim2006]

The difference in wheel spring rate between the 27mm bars and the 33mm bars is very significant. Just throwing big bars at it may not help you achieve what you’re after for performance.
That said 1000 bucks for a set of 30-33 bars is pretty good these days for these cars. Hollow like the group A cars?


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[racingswim2006]

And by the way if you have a 75 style body you need the SHORT torsion bars not the long ones.


And… if you want my opinion, 27mm bar is too stiff for a street car anyway. Maybe for a full weight Milano with bigger sticky tires but that sort of ruins the experience too.

I suggest you run a sticky, near stock size tire and a 25.4mm torsion bar with a careful alignment. You’ll be quicker and more sure footed on most roads anyway unless you live in an area where they make roads like smooth race tracks…


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[johnwells5433]

Hey Fellow Alfistis,

I am (desperatly) looking for a set of new torsion bars, preferably 27 to about 30 max 33mm.
This is because I am currently running my GTV6 on Full PU-Bushings, RSR Anti Sways = 30mm in the front and 26mm in the back, also on Bilstein B6s and lowered a lot in the front (about 8cm/ 3.1 inches from the floor to the exhaust flex-pipes)

SO:
I just recently drove it a few meters for the first time and it is a really harsh ride (which is not bad, I am aiming for a VERY performance oriented street setup). But I read a lot on the gtv6 specific forum that people have had instances where hard driving caused cracks on the sway bar mounts
if the sway bars were too strong in relation to the damping (torsion bars).

I am willing to pay a better price than there is available online - because unluckily most vendors are from the USA (Performatek, Centerline) I don't think that ordering them from there is the most elegant way. The british guys (CSR) want about €1000,-- which is WAY too much in my honest opinion.
It would therefore be an advantage if maybe some european folks read this post and have some torsion bars around.

NOTE: Sorry I forgot to specify, My GTV6 is from 1985 and has the underbody of the Alfa 75. Therefore I would need the late Type of Torsion Bars which are a bit longer (because they are directly connected with the chassis instead of a crossmember.)

Thanks for reading & all the best,
Chris

Hi mate
Steven my child hood friend mention he as Torsion Bars GTV6 for sale
Shoot him on his mail

[email protected]


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[Jim G]

If your cracking the body where the front sway bar bolts up you need to get the brackets to weld on to strengthen it. Not sure who is making them now. I might have a set if you can’t find them else where.

 

[racingswim2006]

Jim is correct on the sway bar mounts. I'd add that it's a good idea to drill out and spot weld in the middle of the plates in addition to perimeter welding them.

 

[uncle_chris]

First of all, thank you guys for the quick responses.
As @racingswim2006 mentioned correctly, I do need the short ones! I edited this now accordingly. Somehow i mixed those two up

Well, as for the thickness of new torsion bars, I already heard a lot of different opinions. But the consideration of all of them and the verdict shall be made by me anyway so thanks for your input.
I am running 205/50 15 7J rims in the front and 245/50 15 9j rims in the back - both on SEMI-Slicks.
With the RSR Uniball Anti-Sways front and rear, this is just too much stress and not enough damping done by the torsion bars. That's why I would like to upgrade.

As @Jim G and @racingswim2006 talked about the welding of the mounts. I read that a few times already and also about the pre-constructed reinforcment brackets. I gotta be honest - I have ZERO welding equipment or knowledge and these brackets are nowhere to be found in europe so I think I will just take the stress of the mounts by installing accordingly thick torsion bars.

@johnwells I wanted to tag you, but youre banned - so honestly I dont know how serious your offer/ contact is. But a friendly request will still be sent

Cheers and thank you guys for the information

 

[vintagemilano]

First of all, thank you guys for the quick responses.
As @racingswim2006 mentioned correctly, I do need the short ones! I edited this now accordingly. Somehow i mixed those two up

Well, as for the thickness of new torsion bars, I already heard a lot of different opinions. But the consideration of all of them and the verdict shall be made by me anyway so thanks for your input.
I am running 205/50 15 7J rims in the front and 245/50 15 9j rims in the back - both on SEMI-Slicks.
With the RSR Uniball Anti-Sways front and rear, this is just too much stress and not enough damping done by the torsion bars. That's why I would like to upgrade.

As @Jim G and @racingswim2006 talked about the welding of the mounts. I read that a few times already and also about the pre-constructed reinforcment brackets. I gotta be honest - I have ZERO welding equipment or knowledge and these brackets are nowhere to be found in europe so I think I will just take the stress of the mounts by installing accordingly thick torsion bars.

@johnwells I wanted to tag you, but youre banned - so honestly I dont know how serious your offer/ contact is. But a friendly request will still be sent

Cheers and thank you guys for the information

Do not contact the email in the John wells post, it’s a scam, if you send an email to that email you are hooked…

 

[captruff]

I have a pair of factory torsion bars from my 1987 Milano available.

Jeff

 

[uncle_chris]

I have a pair of factory torsion bars from my 1987 Milano available.

Jeff

Thanks, Jeff - what diameter would those be?

@vintagemilano yeah, thanks I already thought so.

 

[captruff]

Thanks, Jeff - what diameter would those be?

22.7mm

Jeff

 

[HeavyMetalAlfa]

I looked and all I could find was long bars.
34, 32 and 25's.
32's and 34's are hollow.
Accepting offers.

 

[uncle_chris]

Thanks Jeff, but I think the ones, that are currently under my GTV6 are also about 22.5 to 23 - I have to measure today to be sure. So not really worth the hustle to "upgrade". Thanks for the offer tho

@HeavyMetalAlfa Those look nice, especially since some of them are hollow which gives the driver a more balanced input control/ starting point of when they do the torsion (dont know how to forumlate in english - sorry).
Unfortunately I would need them in the short version (Milano/ 75 underbody). Im sure you will get rid off them though. Much luck or much fun if you use them yourself

 

[uncle_chris]

UPDATE: Want to buy the long (later) Version bars (I mixed them up .. arghh). Anything from 27 to 32mm

Thanks