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I can't think of another racing team having worse luck than Toyota! After last year's 'heart-breaker' this year's debacle just adds insult to injury!

It's hard to believe that only Mazda has achieved victory at LeMans by a Japanese race-car! I don't know how many years Toyota has been trying, but I'd bet they've spent many millions w/no wins!

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Quite a bit of years! Toyota had an effort in the late '80s/early 90's, then again in the late '90s. The current program started 5 years ago.

"many millions"? LOL - sorry to laugh but that hardly covers it. LMP 1 takes F1-level budgets. I'm not sure about the Toyota budget numbers but supposedly Audi was spending $250 Million per year before they pulled out. So Toyota has probably spent something along the lines of $2 Billion without a win.

You're right about the luck thing though. In both of the two earlier programs they had very near-misses and last year they were in the lead after 23 hours, 55 minutes and failed to make the finish. This year the #9 car was taken out by a car leaving the pits and I read the story behind the #7 was that Kobayashi was leaving the pits and got confused by a competitor in the last pit stall who was wearing an orange racing suit. He was trying to cheer Kobayashi on but Kobayashi mistook him for a marshall. The "marshall's" signals were impossible to decipher (since the guy wasn't a marshall!) and Kobayashi ended up stopping and starting several times and burned out the clutch as a result. Just crazy.

Oh, here's the article about Kobayashi: Le Mans News - The extraordinary reason why the #7 retired from lead of Le Mans
 

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Yep, I didn't know the amount of $$$s but I can only imagine the 'deep-pockets' it must take to compete at LeMans. I don't have a clue how long Toyota can keep it up w/the dreadful results, in 'LMP1', we've witnessed.
I've also been following the America's Cup & I wonder how many 'millions' it must take to compete in that series...it must be close to your estimate of 100s of millions(?)!

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Definitely. Another sport with F1 budgets (I can't think of any more, actually). Not sure what the spend is this year but supposedly Larry Ellison spent something near $300 Million to defend the cup last time around. Mostly right out of his own pocket!

 
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