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I've come across that car several times. This vendor had it for sale years ago and then it turned up in a private collection I know. I got to look it over. It is a spectacular original example. A purpose built racer that was never raced. This a true survivor of the highest quality. Cars like this are usually faked or have been run into the ground. What do GTA's trade hands for ? It is a thin market ,I'm sure.
 

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Hi Guys, I am the owner of this GTA. I got it a year ago out of Japan from the second owner. He got it from the original owner in Italy. 19K original kilometers. Never restored and never converted for racing or turned into a GTAM which was the norm for these late production Junior Stradales. The fact that it survived like this is a total fluke. I am aware of only five other similar examples.

I sold it to a good friend with a large collection of fantastic machines but he was too old and could not drive it. It took some work but I got it back from him a few weeks ago.

I wish I could keep it but this is business and my little ones need to eat and need shoes for their feet!

Here is the link to full sets of high resolution inspection photos, notes and history going back to new:

20059 premium cars for sale: Anamera

Ciao,

Bill Noon

Symbolic International
11425 Sorrento Valley Road
San Diego, California 92121 USA

Phone 619 840 7811
Email [email protected]
Website 20059 premium cars for sale: Anamera
 

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Nice Stradale. This one was always a street car and always meant to be a street car.

Bill - did I see this car in La Jolla last year? If so VERY nice car. I think I met you sometime around "car week" in Monterey in 2014. Seems like this one would be a good candidate for Monterey...
 

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Hi Rob,

I bought this one in December of 2014 and got delivery end of January but it was sold before arriving. It was with us for a few months for services and safety checks as it had only been driven about 300kms total in the previous ten years prior to shipping off to an owner who was unable to drive it due to age and health issues. I got it back from him a few weeks ago still titled and registered in my name.

Not sure if you were one of the lucky ones who saw it early this year. Some Alfa folks from the UK came late last week and photographed it for an upcoming article. It would be a great candidate to continue a program of preservation and conservation and I hope the next custodian takes it to public shows and other concours like venues for others to see.

Cheers,

Bill

Symbolic International
11425 Sorrento Valley Road
San Diego, California 92121 USA

Phone 619 840 7811
Email [email protected]
Website 20060 premium cars for sale: Anamera
 

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they were always called gta's.then gtam's.when did the stradale get tagged on? i know there were setups for the street and setups for racing according to what you'd order from alfa.i just find it funny stradale is kicked around the street now.(pun intended).i suppose the aura of the 33 stradale is a radiate thing for others.nice car.
 

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This link gives a pretty basic overview to the GTA program from late in 1964 to the end of the program in December of 1975 when the last of the GTA Juniors was finally sold off:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_GTA

There was always a plan to market a road and race version. The racers were simply called Corsa and the road cars initially had no separate name but Stradale stuck and has followed the non-racers ever since.

300 GTA Junior Corsas were completed. Most of which were heavily updated and modified to keep them competitive over the years. Alfa has production records for only 193 GTA Junior "Stradales" and most of these were also gutted and turned in to races and GTAMs or had their tubs donated to replace worn out Corsas.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Bill Noon

Symbolic International
11425 Sorrento Valley Road
San Diego, California 92121 USA

Phone 619 840 7811
Email [email protected]
Website 20062 premium cars for sale: Anamera
 

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I had two TZ1s last year... they were both well over the $1M mark. I am aware of two others that sold this year for similar prices. Having said that, the first one I ever bought and sold was some 25 years ago and I remember very well thinking what a fool I was to pay $100,000 for such a machine only to see it sold a few weeks later for $115K and yes, I thought what a fool the buyer was to pay so much!

Bill

Symbolic International
11425 Sorrento Valley Road
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Phone 619 840 7811
Email [email protected]
Website 20062 premium cars for sale: Anamera
 

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I didn't realize air cooled 911 crack was being smoked by Alfa owners. Scary classic car market with so many sellers on drugs.
 

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it is a raw machine and that's it's charm to be sure,but you can get five -eight montreals or perhaps more for those bananas.
 

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it is a raw machine and that's it's charm to be sure,but you can get five -eight montreals or perhaps more for those bananas.
I don't think the seller wants bananas in payment.

I suspect he will accept US Dollars. :grin2:

There was a time a long ago when bananas had a much higher value then they have today. It was thought, some 50 years ago, that is if you dried the skins you could smoke them to get a high. (not true)

There was a true story in the San Francisco Chronicle about a street vendor that had a really big supply of cantaloupe. They were not selling at all. So he put a sign up next to the cantaloupes that said, "Any one buying my cantaloupes with the intent of smoking the skins will be refused purchase." He sold out in no time. This was early 60s. Any one remember Herb Caine?

Those were the good old days...
 

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when they are available tz1's where recently priced at this level.wa,wa,wa happened?
Maybe 25 or 30 years ago.
 

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I remember Herb Caen, geeezz get his name spelled right, but I'd imagine Herb would just laugh it off.
Read his column every morning before school.
 

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it is a raw machine and that's it's charm to be sure,but you can get five -eight montreals or perhaps more for those bananas.
Where are the Montreals for 44K or less apiece?
 

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The pricing is aggressive, but the value of similar rare Euro classic cars have jumped over the past few years. Given that 10 years ago these were in the $80,000 to $100,000 range, a $200,000 valuation is not unreasonable.

What will hurt the future appreciation of these cars is that they look very similar to a base Sprint GT that is much more common and worth much less. At least with a Montreal, you are buying a unique car.
 

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True they are a similar body style. However having watched the phenomena of factory drag cars in the 60's which were built in low production with special body panels. Any purpose built car that never got used for that purpose (racing, rallying etc) and becomes a survivor will always carry a premium. It is up to the market to decide that premium.
Of late there is a real premium on original vehicles or "honest" as I call them.
 
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