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Hi Everyone,

Key facts: 81K miles, salvage title, needs timing belt service, cracked windshield, perfect dash, very clean interior, needs a lot of work - $1000

I recently picked up a VERY nice LS from a forum member on here (wasn't cheap as far as 164's go) and we definitely don't need 2 164 LS's in my driveway.

My father purchased this white LS about 4 years ago with 58K miles on it. He drove it to work everyday, and I drove it on and off in college for a year or so (I had another small car I drove as a daily).

It currently has 81K miles. It has issues. The power steering line leaks, the LCD panel doesn't display properly (hasn't received forum member Goat's attention yet), the A/C needs a recharge, and I think the front suspension bushings could use a re-fresh. The car didn't burn much oil if I recall, and did not smoke at all. There is a large crack in the windshield. I have a spare un-cracked windshield that I may be willing to let go with the car for the right price.

My father and I attempted a timing belt job in 2010 - the car received a new tensioner, t-belt, and accessory belt but I think only some of the idler bearings were replaced. It was our first time doing a t-belt on a 24V and I don't think we got the tension quite right...the belt seems a bit looser than it should be, but it's not terrible. I drove it for another 100 miles and the water pump failed shortly after :rolleyes: I would definitely recommend the timing belt to be re-tensioned and any bearings that we didn't get to be replaced.

I pulled over immediately and the car was flat bedded home where it has pretty much been sitting under an expensive car cover ever since. I have started the car up and run it for a couple of minutes just to keep the juices flowing (obviously I only let it run for 2-3 minutes at the most since the cooling system isn't working) every now and then. It still starts on the first try.

The car has a really nice interior...the rear seats are like new, and the driver's seat and arm rest has been re-dyed. There are no splits or cracks anywhere on any of the leather. If it weren't for the failing leather on the shift knob, I would say the interior is about a 9 out of 10. The headliner doesn't even sag like my own expensive LS.

The car carries a salvage title - there is no sign of damage anywhere and the previous owner (also a forum member) had the understanding that the car was up at an auction and sabotaged so it would not run, forcing the auction house to sell it as a non operating vehicle? I don't really know the particulars of the story but this is all I know.

The clutch is good, there is no chatter on take-off. Third gear does grind when shifting fast with the oil warm. The rest of the gears are perfect. This could be cured with a thicker weight oil possibly (People recommend dropping ATF in favor for a thicker oil in the trans I think for the 164's), but don't be surprised if you end up swapping or rebuilding the trans to fix the issue. I can link you up with someone that is selling a good working trans for $400.

Finally, some of the clear coat is starting to peel. A repaint would be needed for it to look its best.

Those are all of the major issues. I hope that someone would make a nice driver out of it. I am pricing this car cheap to try and find someone that will do that rather than part it out.

Craigslist style break down:
  • Good oil pressure
  • great interior
  • engine has good power
  • sunroof works
  • A/C worked well when it was charged
  • good clutch
  • good brakes
  • little to no oil consumption
  • no smoke from the exhaust
  • ANSA dual tip muffler

Items needing attention:
  • Timing belt and water pump
  • windshield
  • suspension bushings
  • power steering line leak
  • upper engine mount "dog bone" needs replacement
  • A/C needs a charge
  • fair amount of dings and dents

Here are some pictures when I was driving it in 2007-2009











I will post some pictures very soon of it currently. It is essentially the same but the clear coat failed on the door mirros under the car cover and the interior would need to be detailed to look as nice as these photos.

Price: $1000

Please email me at:
[email protected]
or call me AFTER WORK HOURS on my personal phone at 408 316 1358. I leave this phone at home so I won't even hear it ring during the work hours.

Thank you for your time!
 

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Replied. Sorry I was buy this whole weekend. I can give you a call after work.
 

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Still for sale. I have received an offer on the car from someone that wants to part the car out so he can use the engine in his stepnose Alfa.

I would much prefer to sell to someone that will use this car as a complete package. Please spread the word about this car!

Thank you.
 

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Grant,

Sorry I haven't got back to u... Been crazy busy... We obviously have different work schedules and the time difference doesn't help... I normally finish work about 10 pm your time... Is that to late to chat?

Thanks

Dante
 

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Dante, no it's not too late. Feel free to give me a call but at (925) 852 seven seven six three this time.

Jason still available =)
 

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I'm sorry I've been lagging on getting current photos up. What you may not see in these photos:

Many dings along the sides of the car and the hood has a couple of dings. no DENTS. The clear coat is starting to fail in a couple of places. The steering wheel leather is shot. The shift knob is shot. The rest of the interior is in very nice condition, probably 8.5-9 out of 10. The windshield is cracked and should be replaced.

Also I now remember that there is a miss-fire at idle every now and then. Under throttle it goes away, just as fast as my other 164 that is running like a top. Our verdict was intermittent coil pack issues.

The rest of the car is just as advertised.
 

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Thanks for the kind words Travis.
 

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Hi there I can offer you 1100 for the car that's if the engine has no bent valves. I'm in Los Angeles and in the auto transport business. If interested please let me know.

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Van
818-455-7836
 

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No bent valves, the car ran and drove fine other than an occasional miss fire at idle. It's pretty fast actually.
 

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Let's try to keep this on topic please =)
 

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One more try...

I'm afraid this car might end up getting broken for its engine if no one will take it for road use.
 

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Hopefully you will be able to sell it as a driver. You've had it on the BB list for only about 3 weeks, it looks like. Usually takes a lot more time than that.

It's a shame more people don't realize just how great these 24v cars are, and how well they drive. They are really one of Alfas better models. Multicam (Frank) in West Hartford has one that looks just like this one, and I had a chance to drive it. It was very very nice, would have loved to have taken it out on the highway for a while.
Shame that decent cars which require a little loving care are being parted out.
 

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Car starts right up, moved it around my parking lot today.
 

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Just to let you know you are too sentimental. Clearly these cars hold no value. And especially your car is really worth around 1000.00 for someone who really needs an engine. Plus we don't know if the timing belt has been serviced correctly or not. It's a big gamble to even invest even a thousand dollars on this car because if the engine is no good then you are stuck with a 1000.00 pile of metal. My brother tried to purchase the car from you for the engine you said no. I tried to purchase it from you and you asked too many un nessisary questions. Why would anyone try to restore a car like this to drive and spend all that money. And if you do i would suggest getting a pshyciatric check up. And why is the Alfa community glorifying this car and this thread. Why are you guys claiming you have caught a trophy fish wile the fish is still in the ocean. Alfa community needs help.
 

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Lol. That is all.

Anyways guys, you can see that I am trying to find this car a good home ^ as he pointed out. But I need the space. Someone step up! Even if you want the car for parts.
 

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Just to let you know you are too sentimental. Clearly these cars hold no value. And especially your car is really worth around 1000.00 for someone who really needs an engine. Plus we don't know if the timing belt has been serviced correctly or not. It's a big gamble to even invest even a thousand dollars on this car because if the engine is no good then you are stuck with a 1000.00 pile of metal. My brother tried to purchase the car from you for the engine you said no. I tried to purchase it from you and you asked too many un nessisary questions. Why would anyone try to restore a car like this to drive and spend all that money. And if you do i would suggest getting a pshyciatric check up. And why is the Alfa community glorifying this car and this thread. Why are you guys claiming you have caught a trophy fish wile the fish is still in the ocean. Alfa community needs help.

Wow thats outright rude. This is his car right? This is his for sale thread right? If he does not want the car parted out thats his choice and the majority of us here stand behind him. This is a a great Alfa community. Mental issues really? I have met Grant on more than one occasion he is far from mental. You sound like the mental one here mad because he don't want to sell you the car for parts having a fit like a child. So if you don't like what he thinks thats your business and should not be addressed on his for sale thread. With that said.....................BUMP TO THE TOP!
 
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