No I understand why you meet there!
Italian grotto is a great place but small. I know the owner pretty well.
I don' think Gary went out of business? He has been there for 20 years or so. Fantastic food. Slightly americanized but still very good. Great atmosphere!!
Kind of your typical East coast Joint.
I have no idea where to meet as I have not researched it. So I suppose OG is best.
That place on Scottsdale rd IMO is not very good and yes service is not good either. My wifes friend's mother runs the place. It's OK at best!
I may have some suggestions so that at least the Alfa club can get some good Italian food in their bellies.
No disrespect, it just stinks that you have to meet at such a place, thats all. Not that I should care much as I never can make it. So I should not say anything either.
Maybe I can help in someway.
Jason