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Just to finalise my earlier post on lowered springs.

I have refitted second hand stock springs to the front, which cures all the the harshness and bottoming.

Examination of the springs that were taken out makes me think that they are original springs that were lowered by resetting - in other words a cheap and nasty modification by the new car dealer back in 2001/2.

Car is great & I endorse the original point of this thread - why aren't all cars like this?
 

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What do you mean by "they were lowered by resetting"?
 

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Experienced my first real wheelspin over the weekend when I got annoyed with "other cars" and became worried about my 156 being hit ... so I nailed it to get out of the way and to relieve my frustration :wink2:. No torque steer and didn't veer off line at all ... note the road was wet.

I also drove her up to Hamilton and it was wet and experienced more wheelspin coming out of an intersection when I wanted to get a move on to get up to the traffic flow speed ... again no torque steer, very easy to control and good grip levels.

Reminded me of my old race Sud but without the uncontrolled wheelspin caused by a hot motor with a nasty torque curve as she came on cam. Both chassis' are good examples of fwd technology.
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BTW has anybody solved the lack of cup holder issue?

My wife is a coffee drinker and I have kids ...

We have discovered that a McDonalds cardboard cup holder fits nicely in the arm rest "hole" when the rear seat arm rest is down.

If I had my welding gear all set up I'd be making something, but that could be years away :( ...
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BTW has anybody solved the lack of cup holder issue?

My wife is a coffee drinker and I have kids ...

We have discovered that a McDonalds cardboard cup holder fits nicely in the arm rest "hole" when the rear seat arm rest is down.

If I had my welding gear all set up I'd be making something, but that could be years away :( ...
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What do you mean? It has a cup holder!
 

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I've never really understood the obsession with having cup holders in cars. I'm not really comfortable with the idea of potential spillage with flimsy cardboard cups of sticky liquid, even when they have lids on them. I do take a bottle of water on long journeys in warm weather but they don't fit cup holders and I usually have a passenger to hand it to me or I stop and drink from it.
 

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In my Giulietta 940 there are lots (4) cup holders and place for 4 bottles in the A/C'ed glove compartment.
I don't drink coffee when driving, on long journeys I some times drink a little water. My wife hands me a bottle from the glove compartment.
When driving my 156 we usually had a Thermos with coffee. We always take pauses every two hours, so really no need for cup holders.
 

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Interesting :).

While I understand the spillage concern (and yes I've already experienced that in the 156, but easily cleaned up) cup holders are really handy to turn a car into a family trip maker.

All the cars we owned in Australia had them and I guess my family is used to them, as am I. And yes I usually carry a water bottle and have found that it can fit between my seat and the door, but it is not the most elegant solution.

I do try and suggest that we take a break and eat in (I admit that when I'm on a long drive I like to get on with it though), but I'm not a coffee drinker and it blows my mind how long it takes to make a coffee so everybody else is usually done and ready to go again while the coffee is ever so carefully being massaged by historical rituals into whatever special brew that my wife loves :surprise:

I reckon you could make something to connect to the front seat mounts and for a RHD car be neatly for your right hand below that front corner of the seat ... perfect for a water bottle to keep you fresh on those 3 hour drives. At least with this design it would not damage the car as that is not happening!
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She just passed her first warrant of fitness in my ownership :)

A couple of interesting things:
1. Around a month ago our Honda Odyssey also passed it's WOF but it failed at first due to brake lights with only the high stop light working. Now the 156v6 was the opposite with the high stop light not working. Amusing :D

2. This lead to the next discovery. For some strange reason somebody had cut the wires to the high stop light. Now why is it that every Alfa Romeo I have owned has had wires cut by previous owners??? I joined them back together properly and the high stop light now works ... weird.

When I can find my soldering iron I will properly solder them back together, but for now I've used crimp connectors.
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Very rarely the stop lights gets checked.
I'm lucky every time I reverse my Alfa out of it's parking lot I can see a reflection in a neighbour's window of it's rear end and all lights. So I always know all lights are working or not.
 

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Now why is it that every Alfa Romeo I have owned has had wires cut by previous owners??? I joined them back together properly and the high stop light now works ... weird.
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Having owned 13 Alfas so far, I think this sort of thing is the source of the belief by J. Clarkson and his followers that Alfa electrics are dodgy. I have owned and worked on a considerable number of other cars over the years and in my experience Alfas are no worse than most and actually better than some. Older Alfas have often been buggered with by incompetent people and once you get them sorted, they are fine.
 

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So she continues to rack up the miles as every weekend I'm doing the Tauranga to Auckland and back trip. In fact last weekend we did Tauranga to Auckland, Auckland to Hamilton, Hamilton to Auckland and finally Auckland to Tauranga and she never misses a beat.

Last night I gave her a thorough clean, including a vacuum. Trying hard to keep this her in good condition. She needs another polish even though she has modern paint and supposedly this is not required but it makes the paint feel so much nicer. Hopefully I can do this this week after work some day.

I do feel guilty as the 1750 sits there (im)patiently waiting and undoubtedly jealous ... :(

The good news is that my son appears to be responding better to his latest medication and is now considerably calmer and rational. A long way to go still and I do not want to get ahead of myself, but positive thinking is important :)
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Wish I'd never said anything about my son, he's now sliding down hill again ... sigh

Don't know where we are heading ...
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Having owned 13 Alfas so far, I think this sort of thing is the source of the belief by J. Clarkson and his followers that Alfa electrics are dodgy. I have owned and worked on a considerable number of other cars over the years and in my experience Alfas are no worse than most and actually better than some. Older Alfas have often been buggered with by incompetent people and once you get them sorted, they are fine.
So true - goes for all cars 20+ years old.
When I sold my spider 1970 last year all electrics worked. In the 11 years I had it only bulbs changed.
 

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I find it strange how Top Gear magazine and the show love Alfas on the one hand and perpetuate the myths on the other. The latest issue of the magazine is a case in point. It has very positive articles about the Giulia and how important it is and at the same time starts off with an editorial that contains absolute BS about Alfas of the last 30 years. The editor talks about how he has never got round to owning an Alfa himself and that maybe he isn't a true petrol head as a result. He talks about how he almost bought a 155, but it was a bit rough and he didn't go ahead with the purchase. Later he became very keen on buying a FWD GTV6, but - and this is the kicker - motoring journalist colleagues talked him out of it because they said that Busso engines had a habit of blowing up if you put your boot into it when overtaking. I don't know about you guys, but in all my years of owning seven Busso engined cars, reading thousands of posts on forums such as this, knowing lots of Busso owners, including many who have raced their cars very hard for years, I have never heard of that happening. Where do these idiots get this crap from? Maybe they are the sort of drivers we have all come across, or have heard about, who are able to break the unbreakable, or maybe they are just BS artists who make stuff up like conspiracy theorists. The trouble is they have a powerful forum for putting out their twisted ideas and influence people as a result. I understand the show is entertainment first and foremost, but surely the magazine should be factual as much as possible. Personally I don't think they should be telling lies in either.
 

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Heck I put my boot in my Busso engine all the time (once warmed up). Accidentally hit the rev limiter a few times, etc.

All Alfas have bloody strong engines, end of story. The only problem with an old second hand one is rust and the previous owner. From the 75 onwards rust is no different than any other quality car.
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Heck I put my boot in my Busso engine all the time (once warmed up). Accidentally hit the rev limiter a few times, etc.

All Alfas have bloody strong engines, end of story. The only problem with an old second hand one is rust and the previous owner. From the 75 onwards rust is no different than any other quality car.
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Exactly. I can't help feeling a tiny bit sorry for the guy, even though he is gullible and misinformed, because he allowed those idiots to talk him out of the absolute joy of owning a Busso engined Alfa. He should forget what they told him, go out and buy one and live the dream, like we do.

I drove our 1989 3 litre 75 project car, with its 2004 GT seats, through the hills to my brother's place today and it ran beautifully. It seems to have an exceptional engine in it because it really goes. It has only done about 170,000km. My Alfa mechanic, who has serviced it almost all of its life since new and who sold it to us, kept telling me it was always a good engine and he wasn't wrong. It took 12 months to get it back on the road after sitting in his yard for two years, but it was fun and well worth the effort. I had to replace all the hoses, get the injectors reconditioned, sort the ignition, rebuild the brakes and other stuff that suffered from sitting around, but it ticks over like a clock now. We don't push it hard through corners yet because it needs decent wheels and tyres, the caster arm ball joint conversion and a wheel alignment, but it feels great on the road. We scored an almost new set of Koni yellows from a friend's ex race car that ride beautifully. In my experience Koni yellows are ideal on 75s. This one is the fourth 3 litre 75 I have owned and my son still has my first, (the one in my avatar), though it has been off the road for over a year with a worn out clutch plate. We have another clutch and flywheel assembly to put in it one day, thanks to another good friend.

All the best wishes for your son and family Pete.
 

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Exactly. I can't help feeling a tiny bit sorry for the guy, even though he is gullible and misinformed, because he allowed those idiots to talk him out of the absolute joy of owning a Busso engined Alfa. He should forget what they told him, go out and buy one and live the dream, like we do.

I drove our 1989 3 litre 75 project car, with its 2004 GT seats, through the hills to my brother's place today and it ran beautifully. It seems to have an exceptional engine in it because it really goes. It has only done about 170,000km. My Alfa mechanic, who has serviced it almost all of its life since new and who sold it to us, kept telling me it was always a good engine and he wasn't wrong. It took 12 months to get it back on the road after sitting in his yard for two years, but it was fun and well worth the effort. I had to replace all the hoses, get the injectors reconditioned, sort the ignition, rebuild the brakes and other stuff that suffered from sitting around, but it ticks over like a clock now. We don't push it hard through corners yet because it needs decent wheels and tyres, the caster arm ball joint conversion and a wheel alignment, but it feels great on the road. We scored an almost new set of Koni yellows from a friend's ex race car that ride beautifully. In my experience Koni yellows are ideal on 75s. This one is the fourth 3 litre 75 I have owned and my son still has my first, (the one in my avatar), though it has been off the road for over a year with a worn out clutch plate. We have another clutch and flywheel assembly to put in it one day, thanks to another good friend.

All the best wishes for your son and family Pete.
Thank you.

The biggest issue I have with driving Alfas is I get too excited and next minute I'm getting complaints from my wife, re G forces ... :surprise:
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Thank you.

The biggest issue I have with driving Alfas is I get too excited and next minute I'm getting complaints from my wife, re G forces ... :surprise:
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Mine will put up with it on club cruises occasionally because she loves driving Alfas and knows how they affect you. She loves her 159 to bits. I corner faster on my own though. :)
 

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Unfortunately I've had to make another trip to Auckland and back ... yes my son has had to return to hospital as he was getting hostile and delusional again :(.

It appears that I have a rear wheel bearing on the early stages of wearing itself out. Everything I've read on the net reads as though I have to purchase a new hub and bearing assembly, and I cannot just press/bang new bearings into my existing hub. Is this correct?

Otherwise she is just fine, maybe the air conditioning could do with a service but its okay. I'll keep running her until the bearing noise is excessive as money does not grow on trees down here at the moment :)
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