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in the past radiators were more easy to fix, nowadays they are made of plastics, better to buy new one maybe.
 

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in the past radiators were more easy to fix, nowadays they are made of plastics, better to buy new one maybe.
Yes the header tanks are made of plastic but the finned part is made of metal and that is where is it leaking. But my concern is is it leaking because of maybe a stone attack or because it has rusted thin. She should not have rusted thin as the water when I bought her already had good inhibitor colour ...

Anyway will ask around. Buying a new one would, I suspect, cause the parts department at the local Alfa dealership to take the rest of the day off and party ;), but yes I will check the cost of ordering one from overseas, etc.

[EDIT:]Email sent (as it is Sunday) to the Italian Auto Centre :)
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Radiator out ... don't think it's fixable. So many fins missing!
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You could try The Spare Place or Turin Imports here in Adelaide Pete. Both are good for that stuff. Also ebay has Australian sellers with Alfa radiators.
 

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New one ordered from Italian Auto Centre ... ~$450, ... was recommended to steer clear of second hand ones due to the age of these vehicles and they are not fixable.

Isn't it silly that because of the plastic header tanks they cannot be repaired and likely are filling up land fills all over the world. My 1750's radiator will likely out last this new one ...
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Btw a shrinking disc is on its way ... will be interesting to see what that may do to the 1750 :)

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I must really like this car ... I've just spent 30 to 45 minutes very carefully de-beeing the air conditioning radiator with my trusty scriber and air compressor gun. Obviously I blew backwards threw it first but then it was a fin by fin process.

I wonder if it will make any difference?, but I always believe you should clean the things you work on and can't put a dirt part back together.


Anyway, new water radiator has arrived, so plan to put her back together tomorrow.
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Radiator in and car ready for action again :). Not as easy as taking out but not that hard, just lots of parts to reinstall.

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Check the power steering pipes and cooler, they're known leak points after the rad (or lower subframe) has been out.
 

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Check the power steering pipes and cooler, they're known leak points after the rad (or lower subframe) has been out.
Thanks, will do.

I already have a slightly leaky power steering pump. I did think of resealing it while everything was apart, but I didn't want to end up restoring the 156v6 ;) :D
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Does anybody know where the individual components of the air con are?

I know where the condenser (radiator) is and the compressor are located but where do the following live:
1. Accumulator (receiver?)
2. TX (expansion?) valve

My wife and daughter moaned about the ability of the air con system yesterday so I'm thinking it's time for it to be serviced. I can't do this but if the dash or front of the car has to come out/off I'd prefer to do that myself thanks :)

Previous cars I've had the air con serviced on required the TX valve to be replaced as often the cause of a leak, and the accumulators (receivers) I believe don't last forever. And gee for that car the air con was brilliant afterwards!

Thanks
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Okay I remembered that I have an electronic service manual and have located the accumulator/receiver/drier and it is in front of the right front wheel, apparently. I've also spoken to a local shop about getting her regassed and checked for leaks. From my understanding of aircon systems, and I'm still learning, the accumulator/receiver/drier should just be replaced as it will be fill of water by now with the car being 17 years old.

So one day I will take a day off work and take her to this shop to get a new accumulator/receiver/drier installed. Surely they will be able to install a generic one, and then regassed and checked for leaks. Before I take it there, I will remove the front bumper, grill, inner wheel arches and of course the under tray. The place is only a couple of kilometres from home, but no point paying for them to remove this stuff when I can do it with more care and for free. Plus without these removed they really cannot properly check for leaks.


But I want to also post a Alfisti public warning message :blush:

Yesterday we took her for a nice run to Matamata for lunch, and a bit of op shopping, meet up with parents thing. On the way home I was being followed by a lowered Holden Commodore and after going through an intersection more carefully and slower than I needed I thought time for some fun so I dropped her down into third and gave her the beans and soon, for a very short time, we experienced the lovely Busso swell of torque and were rocketing along. I quickly backed off and thought to myself, that has shown the Commodore how it is done :)

I looked in my mirror and the Commodore was fast approaching, in fact very fast and he (assumed) did not lift until the front of his car had disappeared in my rear view mirror, as he braked heavily. Next milli-second he pulled out and rocketed past but this was done through a corner with probably no visibility of any oncoming traffic.

Now all turned out okay but if the timing had been bad (a few seconds later a car came the other way), or if he had not just missed the rear of the 156 or miss judged my adjusted speed due to the fact that I had lifted off and returned to cruising, things could have turned out ugly because I had wound him up and I did not know of course their driving abilities and how they were going to respond. A silly moment of driving by me. I had put my wife and son at risk and lost control of the situation and given it all to this other driver that I did not know at all.
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Commodore drivers don’t like it when they are suddenly left in the dust by an Alfa. They think their cars are all conquering until they come up against something that handles. They often go blasting past after you slow down in my experience. What that proves in their mind I don’t know. I had a guy in a Commodore try to emulate my flicking the GT round the roundabout at the bottom of our street and I saw the look on his face in the rear view mirror when he realised his car wasn’t up to it. It was priceless.
 

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Currently doing 7 days of work a week as we are releasing to production, so I thought bugger it I'll take the 156v6 today ... blew any cobwebs well and truly out with a new top speed for me in this wonderful car. Hehe ... felt very slow after that short burst 😁
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So I removed the 2.5 badge from the rear of the car ages ago because it did not line up with the v6 24v badges and this annoyed me. Last weekend my son and I took my father on a vintage car run, to check on projects in members sheds, and I was instructed to bring the 156v6. He normally takes his MGB but the 3 of us would not have fitted ... anyway much to my surprise I ended up having a chat with this chap about my 156 and how he's always admired them and what size is it ... so yeah time to put the 2.5 badge back on ;)

So what do I stick it on with please?
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Some tape with glue on both sides. With a sharpe knife form the tape after the 2,5L V6 and what ever is on the back of the luggage lid.
It a bit pasion job.
 

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I`ve used a touch of clear RTV to put the K back on the back of the mighty Twin Spark.
By the way took a V6 156 for a drive the other day and despite the fantastic sound compared to the TS was disappointed in the difference in performance plus much heavier in the front end in comparison making it less responsive and unwieldy in feel. This is the 2nd V6 manual I`ve tried (plus the auto Q). Think the GTA might be the one to try ( but I don`t like the body modifications) so for me personally I think I`ll stay with the 2 litre, besides I do all maintainence and access definitely is easier in the 4 cyl.
156`s though are pretty good cars and in my opinion one of the best looking of the "modern" cars from any manufacturer.
 

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I`ve used a touch of clear RTV to put the K back on the back of the mighty Twin Spark.
By the way took a V6 156 for a drive the other day and despite the fantastic sound compared to the TS was disappointed in the difference in performance plus much heavier in the front end in comparison making it less responsive and unwieldy in feel. This is the 2nd V6 manual I`ve tried (plus the auto Q).
I'll make sure I never drive a 4 cylinder then ;), but I admit I don't push my 156v6 very hard. I'm 50 now and cruising is becoming my thing more and more. I still do like to find the lines but I know that I am way below the cars and even my own limits.
Think the GTA might be the one to try ( but I don`t like the body modifications)
Yes I agree with you. Obviously I'd love to own a GTA but the single divider front is a styling fail. I doubt I'll own a different 156 than my current one. Now that we have the Toyota Vitz she (the 156v6) is a luxury and more and more we use the Vitz for weekend chores. It is actually quite a good little car and so cheap to run.
... so for me personally I think I`ll stay with the 2 litre, besides I do all maintainence and access definitely is easier in the 4 cyl.
Yes while I enjoy looking at the v6 engine, I do feel a little nervous to the thought of working on her. Even changing the oil filter is a pain, and Alfa Romeo could have made this easier by just a little extra design effort in the shape and mounting of the power steering pipes. I've not experienced this VW sort of pointlessly annoying engineering on an Alfa Romeo before. Sure you have to remove a lot of things compared to a Toyota to do simple tasks, but usually there is a reason. In the power steering pipes case, it was either cost cutting or just plain oversight, or like VW Golf Mk4s (possibly the worst car I have ever worked on), we don't give a **** about people working on our cars attitude.
156`s though are pretty good cars and in my opinion one of the best looking of the "modern" cars from any manufacturer.
A visiting friend found it hard to believe she was 17 years old from a styling point of view.

I will be able to weld properly again very soon, so will make bottle holders that attach to the front of the front seats, then she will be perfect.
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Pete, I`m 64 but when I drive the 156 which gets used very little,as it`s our luxury "modern" car I drive it reasonably hard when its safe to do so and the difference in grunt is not great but the agility etc is better. We have a Fiat Punto 1.3 turbo diesel for every day use and being a tight arse the fuel consumption makes even the Alfa seem like a large capacity V8 so the Punto is the first port of call. Both Alfa and Fiat though are a bit boring compared to the other older cars we have (old Alfas, old Lancias, old Ferrari , Fiat 500 & 126 and even our DS21 Citroen, that`s why I was fleetingly looking at V6 156`s again to get some magic back in our "moderns" but I`m happy with what I`ve got. Modern cars are brilliant at many things and so convenient but ultimately even cars with "character"are now diluted. Can`t see myself buying new when I retire in 4 months.
 
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