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Hi Jeff,

Just saw your video from the continuation of the reinforcements.
Regarding the interior lights, the original Giulia Sprint GTA had a simplified interior light that consisted in exactly what you described: cutting of the grabhandle part of it. see the pictures.

Anyway, please consider that the grabhandles part with ligth swicth is a GT specific part and difficult to find sometimes. There is another option which are the Giulia/Berlina units which are excalty the same but without the switch and less soughtafter. Consider talking to your contacts in the alfaworld there (I know that you had some input from a restorer/speacialist) and trade them for Berlina units in order not to destroy some parts that could help a original restorarion.

On the reinforcement topic. That was overkill on the front legs. The car is a later year production and already had reinforcements around the crossmemenber. How much do you think the car will weight in the end? 1200kg?
 

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Hi Jeff,

Just saw your video from the continuation of the reinforcements.
Regarding the interior lights, the original Giulia Sprint GTA had a simplified interior light that consisted in exactly what you described: cutting of the grabhandle part of it. see the pictures.

Anyway, please consider that the grabhandles part with ligth swicth is a GT specific part and difficult to find sometimes. There is another option which are the Giulia/Berlina units which are excalty the same but without the switch and less soughtafter. Consider talking to your contacts in the alfaworld there (I know that you had some input from a restorer/speacialist) and trade them for Berlina units in order not to destroy some parts that could help a original restorarion.

On the reinforcement topic. That was overkill on the front legs. The car is a later year production and already had reinforcements around the crossmemenber. How much do you think the car will weight in the end? 1200kg?
I will not cut up the ones I have, I will pass them on, but those ones you showed me might be just the thing I am looking for. Thanks.

As for the weight, I am guessing around 1200kgs. I am building the car to be a super fun, comfortable street car, so it will have some high quality sound deadening to go with the A/C, etc that I have installed. I could have just put the Ferrari engine in and aimed to keep it as light as possible, race car style, but those cars really suck to drive for any length of time. I want to be able to happily road trip this car to a destination and still be fun when I get to the twisty stuff :D
 

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I will not cut up the ones I have, I will pass them on, but those ones you showed me might be just the thing I am looking for. Thanks.

As for the weight, I am guessing around 1200kgs. I am building the car to be a super fun, comfortable street car, so it will have some high quality sound deadening to go with the A/C, etc that I have installed. I could have just put the Ferrari engine in and aimed to keep it as light as possible, race car style, but those cars really suck to drive for any length of time. I want to be able to happily road trip this car to a destination and still be fun when I get to the twisty stuff :D
Don you know how much more the Ferrari motor weighs over the stock Nord? Is it about 100kg given your estimate of about that much over stock?
 

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Is it legal because the main bar is behind the front seats and the rear passenger seats were deleted?
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I don’t know about Australian rules, but a lot of states in the U.S. effectively let you do anything you want on a classic car. My car is registered as an “antique”, which means no inspections. As a practical matter, you could run a full blown race car on the street as long as it had proper lights.

But a roll bar is a bit different from a full cage. Less chance of head impacts.
 

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Those Mini lights look great, but are they the same dimensions as my original ones?

Don you know how much more the Ferrari motor weighs over the stock Nord? Is it about 100kg given your estimate of about that much over stock?
The Nord with clutch and flywheel weighs 148kgs, The Ferrari with clutch and flywheel weighs 175kgs. 27kgs extra for double the cylinders and triple the power.

Modifications vary state by state, but everywhere in Aus they need to be engineered. Half cage can be engineered as long as the car gets reclassified as a 2 seater (which my 911 has).
 

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Those Mini lights look great, but are they the same dimensions as my original ones?


The Nord with clutch and flywheel weighs 148kgs, The Ferrari with clutch and flywheel weighs 175kgs. 27kgs extra for double the cylinders and triple the power.

Modifications vary state by state, but everywhere in Aus they need to be engineered. Half cage can be engineered as long as the car gets reclassified as a 2 seater (which my 911 has).
Given that, I’m guessing you will come in under your estimated weight.
 

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Funny I don't remember how but we we did install them in a GTV so I guess they must fit!
That is good enough for me then :D

Gearbox and rear axle weight?

I assume the Alfa stuff will fail pretty quickly, so heavier items will be required ... ?
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The gearbox I have was not much different in weight from the Alfa one from memory (I did weigh them both in a video) and the 2000GTV rear axle from everyone I have talked to is already heavily over engineered and handles big power turbo engines with ease, so the Ferrari engine, which is high revving but low torque should be fine. The BRZ gearbox is probably the limiting factor as it will be close to the limit of torque it can handle. I have still talked to plenty of guys drifting BRZ's with more power and the gearbox has handled a ton of abuse. There are gearsets off the shelf to fix that if it comes to it, but this is not a drift car or a drag car so I think it should be fine.
 
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Jeff, on the courtesy light, I went through a similar process as you. Since I have a roll bar and no back seat I sourced just a little courtesy light from an earlier Alfa Giulietta. Took a bit of modification, but works well and looks "right" to my eyes.
 

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This week I finish off the seam welding on the Alfarrari and then I have a go a metal shaping with a block of wood.

 

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This week I continue on the smoothing in of the front end of the Alfarrari and I give you a lesson in why you wear protective gear.

 

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Watched some of your videos and worried about ground clearance (also worried about welding with TIG, which is amazingly not legal in NZ for a modified road car. Don't know laws in Australia). You will be in trouble if you have things below that front cross member! Will have to raise the car up so it looks like a 4WD :eek:. I suggest raising the floor for the exhaust pipes

Btw you are a lucky man with Mrs Jeff
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Watched some of your videos and worried about ground clearance (also worried about welding with TIG, which is amazingly not legal in NZ for a modified road car. Don't know laws in Australia). You will be in trouble if you have things below that front cross member! Will have to raise the car up so it looks like a 4WD :eek:. I suggest raising the floor for the exhaust pipes

Btw you are a lucky man with Mrs Jeff
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That is crazy by the NZ authorities, as TIG welding is definitely a superior form of welding over MIG, and others. I know quite a few roll cages here get rejected because they are MIG welded and not TIG welded. It is much easier to make a MIG weld that looks good but actually has little penetration compared to TIG.
 

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That is crazy by the NZ authorities, as TIG welding is definitely a superior form of welding over MIG, and others. I know quite a few roll cages here get rejected because they are MIG welded and not TIG welded. It is much easier to make a MIG weld that looks good but actually has little penetration compared to TIG.
Yes agree. In the end it is not the type of weld that matters, but who performed the weld

Most production line welding is MIG though because it is fast, and also strong (again if used by somebody that knows what they are doing) and depending what you read the strongest (Strongest Weld Types - Arc Helmets). I remember it was considered the strongest when I was at polytech, but that might have involved a cost factor too. Back in my club racing days you had to stick weld roll cages, but that is a very long time ago ...
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