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Hi, does anyone knows from which type of car these rims are from.I have 2 rims with Proiettori Carrello 07.256.012,hight 3cm, diameter outside 18 cm inside 16,5 mm, and carrello rims hight 3 cm, outside 22cm,inside 20,5, maybe Bertone Sprint 2000/2600?
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I checked the parts catalog: Carrello 07.256.012 is not used on any 2600 model.
 

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Hi nivadoclassico and Ruedi,


Let's start saying that the 2600 catalogs have shortcomings as they don't mention the Carello reference for the outer and inner 2600 Sprint light rims. So that won't help us.

This is what I could find in Carello catalogs:

2600 Sprint outer rim > Alfa # 102.05.65.109.00 > Carello # 07.535.012 . > for 7" (170 mm) light unit
2600 Sprint inner rim > Alfa # 106.02.65.100.00 > Carello # 07.256.012 . > for 5.3/4 " (136 mm) light unit

It is strange that your outer rim has the Carello number of the small inner light rim !!
Maybe the two Carello numbers were mixed up in the Carello catalogs or Carello stamped the wrong number on your rim.
If your rim was stamped wronly indeed and your rim was a postage stamp, you would have phylatelic gold in your hands ! :geek:


FWIW in the Carello catalog:

2000 Sprint 1a (*) rim Alfa # 102.05.65.108.00 > Carello # 07.534.012 . > for 5.3/4 " (136 mm) light unit.
(*) '1a' means first series ?

Because a 102 number was used for the outer rim of the 2600 Sprint an not a 106 number ( see above) , it is likely that the outer rims of the 2000 and 2600 Sprints were one and the same: Alfa # 102.05.65.109.00 > Carello # 07.535.012 .

However, I can't confirm that from my 2000 catalog as that catalog does not list the Sprint parts.
Maybe someone else can check which Alfa & Carello numbers are indicated for the 2000 Sprint inner and outer rims ?

Rgds,

Thierry
 

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Thanks to Thierry's observation, I went back to check the parts numbers in the 2600 parts catalog again -- only to learn he was correct that the Carello numbers are not listed for the 2600 Sprint headlight trim rims (I had only looked at the Carello numbers ending with "012".

The 2000 Sprint information was an addendum to the Italian version of the 102 parts catalog (Pub. #685). There, the the inner headlight rim is listed as 136 mm (Alfa #102.05.65.108) with Carello #07.534.012), and the outer headlight ring as 170 mm (Alfa #102.05.65.109) with Carello #07.535.012) -- same as the info Thierry found in the Carello catalog. This data seems to have been omitted in both versions of the 2600 parts catalog (Pub. #992 and Pub. #1147/#1164).

I don't recall EVER seeing a Carello number on a headlight ring of a 102 or 106 car -- but that may depend on how they were installed, Carello emblem on top (visible), or at the bottom (invisible). On my car, I have them at the top (before chrome plating, restoring the engravings cost me $400 alone).

With respect to 102 Sprint '1a', there were two body versions pretty much from the start -- but they seem to have used the same headlights.
 

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Hi Ruedi & nivadoclassico,

@ nivadoclassico,

So the mistery of your Carello # 07.256.012 on those 170 mm outer rim in post # 1 still remains . Maybe the wrong number was stamped indeed. In that case, it is not impossible that there could be found more of them.
Of course the wrong number could have been engraved during a restoration of the rims too.
Do you have pictures of the 22 / 20,5 mm Carello rims ? Any Carello reference or Carello stamp on them ?
I see only Italian autobusses with 220 mm light units in the Carello catalog.


@ Ruedi,

Thank you very much for the verification of the 2000 Sprint rim numbers and the downloads you've sent to me.

Rgds,

Thierry
 

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Hi Ruedi & nivadoclassico,

@ nivadoclassico,

So the mistery of your Carello # 07.256.012 on those 170 mm outer rim in post # 1 still remains . Maybe the wrong number was stamped indeed. In that case, it is not impossible that there could be found more of them.
Of course the wrong number could have been engraved during a restoration of the rims too.
Do you have pictures of the 22 / 20,5 mm Carello rims ? Any Carello reference or Carello stamp on them ?
I see only Italian autobusses with 220 mm light units in the Carello catalog.


@ Ruedi,

Thank you very much for the verification of the 2000 Sprint rim numbers and the downloads you've sent to me.

Rgds,

Thierry
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I see two different fixation holes: one round for a screw and one rectangular > Two different rims ?
Can you precise the inner diameter too? Between 170 and 178 mm ?

Thierry
 
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