Hanging pedals in a GTA??
GTA 1600 for sale (original papers)
Under the following link You can find some Pictures of the car.
http://www.fuernholzer.com/GTA/index.html
http://www.fuernholzer.com/GTA/index.html
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It does seem a bit odd. If you look at the last page of pictures, you can see the rivets in the rain gutters. There are some lovely pictures of the car, but not a single one showing the VIN or engine.Hanging pedals in a GTA??
Somebody also had a LOT of free time or got paid by the hole!! Everything is Drilled!
Love to take a magnet to the body panels....
R
Love to take a magnet to the body panels....
R
Ha ha, it's an ultra lite!Somebody also had a LOT of free time or got paid by the hole!! Everything is Drilled!
Love to take a magnet to the body panels....
R
This is the GTA that did not sell at the Coys Auction
This is the GTA mentioned in the thread below.
http://alfabb.com/bb/forums/showthread.php?t=46287
Bob
1965 RHD Autodelta GTA Corsa 1966 Trans-Am and B-Sedan Champion
Under the following link You can find some Pictures of the car.
http://www.fuernholzer.com/GTA/index.html
This is the GTA mentioned in the thread below.
http://alfabb.com/bb/forums/showthread.php?t=46287
Bob
1965 RHD Autodelta GTA Corsa 1966 Trans-Am and B-Sedan Champion
If you read the history, it ends in 1977 with "Car damaged. Sold.... ....(last owner) in Foreigh Countries. Car possibly destroyed."
Hmmmmm.
R
Hmmmmm.
R
That's one seriously sketchy car. Aside from the bondo, the ripples in structural areas, that hideous 'skirt' ... obviously nobody told the hyperactive dude with the drill that swaging holes is a good thing, and turning a brake pedal bar into Leerdamer cheese is just plain stupid. Still, the front brake discs and those A-arms look pretty cool.
I don't see what the issue with the flares/wheels being not the standard issue GTAm style fare when the thing was obviously raced *in period* in that trim (same goes for the airdam)...Aside from the bondo, the ripples in structural areas, that hideous 'skirt'
I actually prefer those ATS 13x9/10s over the GTAm units...
I know this GTA very well, I did the history research for the seller (see the pdf file on the link).
It is VIN #613839, which was sold in late 1965 to its first owner, Dr. Bruno Martellanz from Austria, a well known Alfa racer in the 1960s, first on a GiuliettaSprint, then on a SZ (in which he scored a national championship) and later on two GTAs. He raced #613839 during 1966 (another national rally championship win) and 1967. He rolled the car both in 1966 and 1967, then he put the rally equipment in a new GTA and sold the old one to the second owner, a Mr. Berger, also from Austria. Nothing is known about this second owner. The third owner Manfred Zahn, who is the actual seller, bought the car in 1969 (!), had it repaired again and drove it on the street for some years. In the early 1970s Manfred raced a GiuliaSuper in national races, and when he had worked it up enough, he prepared the GTA therefore. Before the GTA was a short time driven with a Montreal engine, that's why the gearbox tunnel was widened. So during preparation the old rally damages came to light (Manfred did not know about its racing career before) and the car needed a complete new front: fenders, inner fenders, front, and firewall. That's why it has no VIN stamped and hanging pedals (reminds me on the ex Murphy car, 72BS15). All this is documented by photos and it seems to have kept its original body and rear (see the link). It still has the stamps in the rear boot lid. Manfred raced the car then from 1975 to 1978, when the engine blew up, and since then it stayed in his garage. Last year he began to restore it and has it now for sale. It has complete history, but you really have to love it.
The story of the possibly destroyed car belongs to Martellanz' second GTA, which he raced when he had sold #613839, from 1967 to ca. 1972 (according to my research)
It is VIN #613839, which was sold in late 1965 to its first owner, Dr. Bruno Martellanz from Austria, a well known Alfa racer in the 1960s, first on a GiuliettaSprint, then on a SZ (in which he scored a national championship) and later on two GTAs. He raced #613839 during 1966 (another national rally championship win) and 1967. He rolled the car both in 1966 and 1967, then he put the rally equipment in a new GTA and sold the old one to the second owner, a Mr. Berger, also from Austria. Nothing is known about this second owner. The third owner Manfred Zahn, who is the actual seller, bought the car in 1969 (!), had it repaired again and drove it on the street for some years. In the early 1970s Manfred raced a GiuliaSuper in national races, and when he had worked it up enough, he prepared the GTA therefore. Before the GTA was a short time driven with a Montreal engine, that's why the gearbox tunnel was widened. So during preparation the old rally damages came to light (Manfred did not know about its racing career before) and the car needed a complete new front: fenders, inner fenders, front, and firewall. That's why it has no VIN stamped and hanging pedals (reminds me on the ex Murphy car, 72BS15). All this is documented by photos and it seems to have kept its original body and rear (see the link). It still has the stamps in the rear boot lid. Manfred raced the car then from 1975 to 1978, when the engine blew up, and since then it stayed in his garage. Last year he began to restore it and has it now for sale. It has complete history, but you really have to love it.
The story of the possibly destroyed car belongs to Martellanz' second GTA, which he raced when he had sold #613839, from 1967 to ca. 1972 (according to my research)
Since there is a seperate thread about a montreal V8 in a 105, do you happen to know any details about this conversion or the driving behaviour of the car during this period of it's life?
I love the holes, and yes swaging is a good idea in a stressed area, it will be fine where they have drilled. Have a look at an old Ferrari race car ... this guy was lazy compared to thoseThat's one seriously sketchy car. Aside from the bondo, the ripples in structural areas, that hideous 'skirt' ... obviously nobody told the hyperactive dude with the drill that swaging holes is a good thing, and turning a brake pedal bar into Leerdamer cheese is just plain stupid. Still, the front brake discs and those A-arms look pretty cool.
. Remember we now have rollcages taking most of the shell loads.If you have ever really raced a car you will end up with a drill and drilling holes too ... removing weight is cheap and benefits not just power to weight, but cornering, braking, etc. It is the best performance mod.
I personally think this looks like a well sorted and prepared race car (but expensive?) ... no point showing this one, just race it!
Pete
Isn't this the 'Austrian' car? I mean the ex-Manfred Zahn car? Or am I mixing up topics/cars?
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If so, then there is another new owner who is planning to race it at Spa soon. The car appeared on the dutch Alfa Trofeo racing series website:
Alfa Romeo Challenge - Home
New owner is referred to as Eric Mestdagh. Anyone who knows more?
If so, then there is another new owner who is planning to race it at Spa soon. The car appeared on the dutch Alfa Trofeo racing series website:
Alfa Romeo Challenge - Home
New owner is referred to as Eric Mestdagh. Anyone who knows more?
I'm reviving this years old thread because I'm interested in learning more about Dr. Martellanz. I have reason to believe he may have been the original owner of my 1900C SS. According to the research I've done, the car was first sold in Legnago, Verona, in January of 1957, to a "Dr. Bruno M." I only have the first letter of the last name, but given his interest in racing Alfas, perhaps it was Bruno Martellanz. I've got some people researching the car's registration in Italy but am trying to learn more about Dr. Martellanz in the mean time.
Can you share any other information about him?
Ciao!
-tj in los gatos
Can you share any other information about him?
I know this GTA very well, I did the history research for the seller (see the pdf file on the link).
It is VIN #613839, which was sold in late 1965 to its first owner, Dr. Bruno Martellanz from Austria, a well known Alfa racer in the 1960s, first on a GiuliettaSprint, then on a SZ (in which he scored a national championship) and later on two GTAs. He raced #613839 during 1966 (another national rally championship win) and 1967. He rolled the car both in 1966 and 1967, then he put the rally equipment in a new GTA and sold the old one to the second owner, a Mr. Berger, also from Austria. Nothing is known about this second owner. The third owner Manfred Zahn, who is the actual seller, bought the car in 1969 (!), had it repaired again and drove it on the street for some years. In the early 1970s Manfred raced a GiuliaSuper in national races, and when he had worked it up enough, he prepared the GTA therefore. Before the GTA was a short time driven with a Montreal engine, that's why the gearbox tunnel was widened. So during preparation the old rally damages came to light (Manfred did not know about its racing career before) and the car needed a complete new front: fenders, inner fenders, front, and firewall. That's why it has no VIN stamped and hanging pedals (reminds me on the ex Murphy car, 72BS15). All this is documented by photos and it seems to have kept its original body and rear (see the link). It still has the stamps in the rear boot lid. Manfred raced the car then from 1975 to 1978, when the engine blew up, and since then it stayed in his garage. Last year he began to restore it and has it now for sale. It has complete history, but you really have to love it.
The story of the possibly destroyed car belongs to Martellanz' second GTA, which he raced when he had sold #613839, from 1967 to ca. 1972 (according to my research)
Ciao!
-tj in los gatos
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