Graduate Veloce Quad??

Fuel injection started sometime in the late 60's on US spec cars with the SPICA mechanical injection system, then EFI came about with Bosch L-Jetronic W/Motronic ignition in 82-83, followed up by the full Bosch Motronic EFI system from 90-94.

From the series 3 on, Grad is the baseline, no frills ultra basic version.

Veloce is a Grad with bells and whistles like power windows and such.

Quad is the Veloce with a body kit.

Upturned back end as in with a rear spoiler?

Series3 and Series4

Thanks for the info, any suggestions as to the best year(s) to buy?

All a matter of your personal opinion of what you want.

For an S3, '85 if you like dual pod dash look.

If it's monopod you're after, then '86-'89. (well, '94 actually as that dash layout carried all the way through)

For S4, '91 is the first year for that particular bodystyle.

However, if you like the look of an S3 but want the slightly more advanced full motronic system of the S4, then you'll be looking for a '90, which is an S3 body with an S4 drivetrain.

Spiderfaq provides info regarding the development and history of the Spider.

The Spider Timeline shows the changes that took place each year from 1982 to 1990.

elecspec99 said:

I am new to this list and Alfa's. I plan to purchase a Spider around an 87, 88,89. Can anyone tell me the difference between, Graduate Veloce Quad??
Also what year did fuel injection start and what years has the upturned back end?

Thanks,
Former 87 RX7 Turbo II Owner

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Welcome to the BB!

You may find these previous posts helpful (just click to open):

• ’87 Spider Quadrifoglio
• Unofficial Spider Timeline
• A comment that may be helpful when considering the Spider market

Best regards,

elecspec99 said:

Thanks for the info, any suggestions as to the best year(s) to buy?

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It's well-known that the three best tears for Spider's are '74, '87, and '92, and the best colors are red, black, and silver.

Hi,

I can not speak from personal experience, but I believe that the seat belt configuration on the 88's can be a pain to operate and maintain. I have never heard anything good about them. This is the only year that the Spider had an "automatic' seat restraint. The belts (for both driver & passenger) slide in a track system along the door sill near the floor to an elevated center mount post between the seats (on the back ledge behind the seats). When you enter the car and close the door, the belt will slide into the locked position over the lap of the seated person. The shoulder belt is over the drivers right shoulder. Although I'm not certain, I believe it carried through for the entire production year. It was not a very popular system and I know of owners that have had them changed to the more conventional type of seat belts ($$$). When I was looking for my Spider ('90), I avoided the '88 for that reason.

Maybe an owner of an '88 can offer some comments.

Good Luck,
ACC

dwc said:

It's well-known that the three best tears for Spider's are '74, '87, and '92, and the best colors are red, black, and silver.

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hey DWC
Lets see some pics of those sleeksters

Gee Dean that sounds a little biased. lol

Personally I think the 82 is the best. The last year for the series 2 body and first year of the Bosch injection. I would stay away from 80 and 81 for sure, last years for the Spica.

you cant go wrong with either - all spiders are classy, fine automobiles.

Good advice

You've gotten it from several sides! In the end, I heartily suggest you do your research on some of the recommended sites and then enjoy what you end up with. (I've heard the same comments about the '88 seat belts - sounds like a real hassle!). My first Spider was an 87 Veloce w/o air. Loved the leather and the Veloce upgrades, but I wanted something I felt more comfortable working on, hence I now own the '74. SPICA can be a challenge, but I'm only a phone call and a few miles away from THE SPICA MAN - Wes Ingram.

Bottom line - buy the best one you can find for the $$ and then drive it like an ALFA. You'll love the experience.

well said gordy

ya but...

the 90 model is unique and special. the series3 body with motronic engine MANAGEMENT system. it can even be upgraded with a chip upgrade like squadra-chip. (oh...your spider cant be chip upgraded? hmmm)

if youre taller than 6'0 , i recommend an earlier model like pre-86'

And......

There's a really "interesting" 1990 Spider on e-bay right at this moment. I've no idea what the reserve is, but it appears that the owner has made some "significant upgrades" that set it apart from other 1990 MY Spiders.