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Well if it isn't one thing its another! The last issues were the fuel lines leaking, now it won't start and seems like a fuel issue. So I took out the meter and had my son turn the key, and I had 6 volts to the pump. I didn't hear or feel it running, so I took the positive lead off and measured the voltage and I was getting 10 or 11 volts. I assume the pump is stuck, and I have read a few people have taken them apart cleaned it up and it worked fine, but I figure I can get a new one since they are available and have this as a back up. That is if it can be fixed! This is the pump that came with the car when I bought it 6 years ago, who knows when it was (Or if it was) replaced.

I know, no biggie, but what about the rubber boots for the posts on the pump? Does anyone make those or know where to get them? I could just put a blub of silicone on them to keep them clean and dry.

Any thoughts or information is appreciated,
 

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If you have a 12volt battery then hook it up directly to the pump and see if it runs. If it does then the pump is OK and you have a high resistance in the circuit. If it does not run then it is dead. If it is a Bosch pump be aware that they cannot cope with rust or scale in the gas as the clearances are very tight.
 

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I made the one correction in the pervious message, "Didn't" feel or hear it running! Sorry for that one and this is my GTV6. I know these are sensitive pumps and one of the other jobs I did was to clean the strainer for the fuel tank over a year ago. I was happy to see it was intact and nothing came out of the tank other than clean gas.
I was going to jump 12 volts to the pump but it was a time issue on Sunday and if I started doing this I know I would have gone deeper than the time I had before the tapping foot was starting down at me!
New pump is ordered and I will take the bracket's for the pump and filter down and clean them up before the new pump & filter arrive.
What about the little rubber boots for the positive and negative leads? What replacement would you recommend?
 

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Rubber boots for your electrical connections can be found at Napa, autozone, orielly, etc. Just don’t tell them your looking for Alfa parts or you’ll get a blank look.
 

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Maybe it was bad luck giving fuel pump advice. I drove over some tree debris from the storms last night and a piece took out my pump. It took 3.5 hours from calling AllState motoring club to the tow truck arriving.
 

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Sorry to alfaparticle for the bad karma. As for the rubber boots, I know that the big auto parts stores are lost when it comes to finding parts, never mind for an old Alfa!
 

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I would recommend to replace the fuel pump hose and use the high pressure hose. I had a small fuel hose leak for several years (Milano Verde) and finally was able to locate the leak which was in front of the firewall.
 

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Maybe it was bad luck giving fuel pump advice. I drove over some tree debris from the storms last night and a piece took out my pump. It took 3.5 hours from calling AllState motoring club to the tow truck arriving.
3.5 hours? Why? Storm?
 

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Call center in India + local company who don't give sheet.

Indian call centers now? Great.

I sold my towing business in 2005. Allstate paid horribly, both in rates and over 60 days. Hard to get quality towing companies to work for them. I fired them pretty quickly.

It can be easier to get towing endorsement on your auto insurance for about 1/3 the cost of a "motor club". You call the tow truck, you pay for it, give the bill to your agent for reimbursement. At least that's how it was in the olden days......
 

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I belong to AAA and get 3 or 4 tows up to 100 miles. I recently had to be towed nearly 50 miles when my Milano broke down on the freeway. The towing rate in Los Angeles is $9 per mile. I had to be towed again for another break down. I had to wait about 30 minutes for each tow. I should upgrade my AAA membership that includes 4 tows up to 200 miles. My auto insurance company only pays $75 for towing.

I have owned my Milano since 1988 and have been towed four times in 31 years because of a dead battery, broken water pump belt, broken transmission mount and broken timing belt. I have had another four Alfas towed but, two of them were accidents and two because of break downs. I have driven Alfas for 51 years and six tows for mechanical break down is not too much. I could have bought a new battery, replaced the broken water pump belt, replaced the transmission mount but the other break downs required engine repair. I have driven more than 650K miles with various Alfa cars.
 

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It can be easier to get towing endorsement on your auto insurance for about 1/3 the cost of a "motor club". You call the tow truck, you pay for it, give the bill to your agent for reimbursement. At least that's how it was in the olden days......
I think that I already have 25 mile towing on my State Farm policy. I should keep the business card of a good local outfit in my wallet. The AARP/Allstate is 100 miles. I have never needed a tow of more than 25 but I think I know what will happen if I cancel the AARP. I twice suffered major breakdowns on Al Mitchell's dyno in Virginia and neither of them would have been any good if we had not been able to replace a blown Giubo and a blown head gasket at his place.
 

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I think that I already have 25 mile towing on my State Farm policy. I should keep the business card of a good local outfit in my wallet. The AARP/Allstate is 100 miles. I have never needed a tow of more than 25 but I think I know what will happen if I cancel the AARP. I twice suffered major breakdowns on Al Mitchell's dyno in Virginia and neither of them would have been any good if we had not been able to replace a blown Giubo and a blown head gasket at his place.
Yep. The dispatchers for the low buck motor clubs weren't very good years ago. I can't imagine offshore dispatching being anything more than 100 times worse.
 

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I cancelled the AARP club and got a $96 refund for 11 unused months. I had to pay $16 to add towing to my Jag and Spider policies with State Farm. For some reason it was only on my wife's Highlander.
Thanks for the inside scoop.
 

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Sorry for one small question?

I recall the first time my first Alfetta died suddenly and I could not get it started. I was at a stop sign but there was little traffic. I finally called an Alfa buddy of the Northwest Alfa Romeo Club who I knew had an Alfetta too. HE SAID, "JAY, DID YOU CHECK THE ROLLOVER SWITCH ON THE FIREWALL?" I had never had trouble of any kind before and hadn't even heard of it. I poked the button down on the little plastic "can" like item on the firewall, and the pump ran beautifully and I was able to drive off. So, did you check to see the button was pushed down on the rollover switch on the firewall? Excuse me for asking.
 

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did you get your fuel pump working?
 

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I tend to over think things, what if the new pump I ordered from Centerline comes with the rubber boots? And it does! I will jack the car up tomorrow and swap the pump and filter. Here's where I get carried away again, the hoses were already changed expect for the 2" piece between the filter and pump. The brackets that hold the pump and filter look very weathered. I think I'll sand blast and powder coat them!
I'll let you know which way that goes.
Notice the label for the pump, it doesn't say "Alfa" Always forgotten, under appreciated.
 

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I actually did check the inertia switch, like you I had a similar experience with Jaguar XJ6L. I hit a bump and the car shut down! I spent days trying to figure that one out and someone walked up and asked me what's wrong with her? (Other than Lucas electronics Nothing) I explained the problem, and he said with out missing a beat did you check the inertia switch? I was young and didn't know much yet, so I said What's a urgency switch? He said this thing is your inertia switch. As he pointed to this grey cylinder thing under the dash on the passenger side. I was 19 or 20 at the time in 1982 and there was no internet and I hadn't bought a Haynes manual for the car yet. I pushed the button down and it started right up! Why he knew about the switch and this car I never asked, I thanked him several times as I cursed the guys from Jaguar a few more times.
It's funny the switch from the Alfa and the 1977 Jaguar are exactly the same.
 
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