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FS Alfa 164 Only 70K

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For sale is my Alfa. I had this car for a year. I really loved it a lot.
It has all new belts, new oil pump, new fuel pump, new tensioner pulley, tires are 80%, I have just replaced oil pan. When I was changing oil pen I have noticed that oil is mixed with coolant. As far as I know it would need head gasket to be replaced. It drives very good, though. It looks absolutely great. There is a new pain job 2 years ago. 67000 on the clock. Car has clean title and never been to accident before. I will give it away for $1000. I am in Bloomington, IN. I am very sorry to sell this car, but I am a student and do not have time to fix the gasket.
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Probably didn't need a new gasket. Did you just try tightening the heads?

At that mileage, a shot head gasket is not that likely, just poorly tightened heads, esp the rear, being harder to get to. My 91S had this problem years ago, and the torques for the rear head were about 55-60 lb-ft or so instead of the factory nominal. Tightened everything up to 78-79 lb-ft, and it's been fine so far to 138k miles.

If you love the car, try this before bailing, it's free.
Del,
Is it possible to let me know the order of actions to the work you have described. How much time it will take? How hard is a gob?
Someone in the Bloomington area, please help this poor student save his Alfa!
It depends on whether or not you are handy with tools and car work. Sounds like you've dug into the car a little, so not too much of a problem. Should take a couple of hours of fiddling if you are car handy, half a day if you are not. You will need allen wrenches and a torque wrench, among other basic tools.

The front head is easy access, and the cam cover comes off with little effort. The rear head access is more difficult, and you will have to first remove the air collector box atop it, with or without the throttle body. The clamps which hold the rubber intake sleeves going to the collector box can be loosened using a Sears tool, and the box slipped back from the sleeves after the appropriate bolts are removed. The chromed intake ducts and the rubber sleeves do not need to be removed. The cam cover can then be removed with a little effort.

The tricky parts are reinstalling the rear cam cover and then the collector box, as you have to get everything lined up again, esp the gasket.

The head nuts can be loosened (about a complete turn), oiled, and tightened one at a time, torqued to about 78 lb-ft in a crisscross pattern starting from the center nuts working alternately outward to the ends of the head. Personally, I took my 91S to about 80, but many don't like it that high. Worked for me.

Do not overtorque any of the bolts for the airbox and cam covers. They take very little, relatively speaking. I would start at hand snug tight for those bolts. Then go back and torque them to ~6-7 lb-ft.

good luck,
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Did you fix it? Or was anyone able to help him out?
Unfortunately, I had no time to fix it. School year started, I am very busy. I drive it as it is and trying to sell it.
It takes only a few minutes to retorque the front head, and an hour or two to fiddle with the rear. It would be better for you to do this now instead of driving it with coolant in the oil. I worked while I went to college, and I know how busy one can be, but there is always a little time to do the things needed.
It takes only a few minutes to retorque the front head, and an hour or two to fiddle with the rear. It would be better for you to do this now instead of driving it with coolant in the oil. I worked while I went to college, and I know how busy one can be, but there is always a little time to do the things needed.
I agree. I was busy as heck in college and still had time to work on the alfa even during masters.

Try putting down the beer and chasing skirts and spend a few minutes to do this. Save your alfa from death and don't give it away for $1000. You will never buy such a nice car for that amount after you spend half of it on beer and pizza.
Wait a week until school sets in and do it on a weekend in your spare time. It is easy.
Do as Del says, undo the bolts make sure they are clean of dirt in the threads and top and then re-tighten. If there is any debris in the nut it could not tighten to spec.

I 've been there, you can do it.

Good luck! If I was closer I'd help you out
Jason
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