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I have reluctantly decided to sell my Giallo Ocra 67 Sprint GT Veloce. I acquired it last October but it was not what I expected when I got it as it was more of a project than I wanted to take on. I did some initial mechanical work to ensure it was safe and reliable, including carb rebuild, tuning, brakes, new tires and exhaust, among much more, and have been doing a lot of "fettling" since to fix many smaller details both functional and cosmetic (list available).

While the car looks very presentable and drives well (I have put 2000 miles on it including the recent THC Spring Alfa tour), the car has a lot more lower panel rust and rot than I was informed of. It is significant and could cost $5-10k to completely remedy if done out. It can be driven just fine as-is and the rust addressed later and/or sold eventually as-is, or taken on as an upgrade project now, or whenever you want. Based on the rarity and appreciation of Bertone stepnose GT's I do not anticipate it being upside down in a couple of years if fixed. A small part of me still says to take this on now, but I have three other Alfas that all need continual work, and one needs painting, and my garage is full as my wife reminds me that her driver has been outside awhile now . . .

Asking $16,500 OBO. Feel free to drop by and inspect on my lift and/or take it out. A good PPI is recommended and frankly, I would not sell it without one (eyes wide open). .

Attached is a brief condition write up and info sheet and here is a link to some outside and interior photos. I have more of the underside on file also.

Bruce

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Compare with: Alfa Romeo GT BERTONE 1300 JUNIOR 'BRIEVENBUS'
 

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Bump. I got a body work estimate to set all the ugly straight and make this a right nice driver. Just an estimate mind you but he did a thorough inspection and did not scrimp. The shop has worked on Alfas and has a GTV in now for a total resto. Have a long list of body parts from Giles at Classic Alfa also. I can take on the work but would prefer to put my time and effort into a badly needed repaint on my long-held 69 Spider. Be glad to share the numbers.

The price before I decide to do this work now is $15,000. The car looks nice inside and out and runs well. With the rust fixed, I think you will be rightside up still in a nice car, cheaper yet if you can do the work yourself or find a bargain. Austin is very expensive for proper body work.
 

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Hi Bruce.
Nice car you have there.....I would take it if the price could go a bit lower ? :)
Can you forward me the pictures of the floor pans and all the rust work that needs replace? What part of the World did this Veloce came from?
I like the mustard color very unique and goes back to the early 60s.
Very cool :)
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Hey Charli, the history, condition and info is in the docs posted above, but from what I was told a military man brought the car home from Italy to Connecticut. It is a Euro spec car. It made its way to Pittsburgh, and then spent about 15 years in Kentucky, 10 with the PO. Originally Giallo Ocra, then red and then back to Ocra with the PO. The top panels look fine, the interior is nice and it runs great. Much of the lower several inches just underneath the "skin" needs replacing and a bit more (radiator cross member). But it looks and works just fine for now if you don't look too close uderneath. Stepnose prices are just going up. I may just use it and let prices rise but I'd rather paint my Spider. Send an e-mail and I'll send a link to chassis photos. Lower outer skin has issues. Wheel arches, chassis, seatpans and rear jacking points are good. I have a bulk quote on pieces from Classic Alfa at ~1000 UK pounds and labor/paint at $8400. <$11k all in for a no rust car done out.
 

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Any takers? Considering having the body work done - which is not needed for a fair driver - but would be cheaper in a cheaper body work location. Austin is high.
 

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My friends in some mid-west locations cite much cheaper bodywork rates. But I'd wonder what the quality w/r/t working an Alfa, and bondo versus solid metalwork is. I am told "locally" that San Antonio and El Paso is probably much cheaper than Austin. I have inquuired of Houston ALfa friends without any good leads. I need to drive down and find out. The main problem is finding shops that know what a grinder and welder is. Most like collision plug and play work. The fellow I found has worked several Alfas (a 1750 GT in now), does cut and weld and uses single stage multi-coat lacquer (reluctantly) and single stage enamel. Just sitting on it and driving it occasionally while the price rises is an option too. Just tight on space and have other Alfa work to do.
 

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Yes. PM or e-Mail. Much info posted above. B
 

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Next plan is to list it on some Euro sites. Bertone's are getting very scarce over there. No rush. Ample storage here, and rarity and price is just rising. May pull the trigger on resto anyway. CA offered a good price on pieces.
 

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$11000 is cheap as far as I am concerned to get that car rust free. These cars are so rare that before long you will be sorry you let it go in that condition. Go look at the registry to see how many there are in unrestored poor condition. I have a 65 so I am not jumping on at.
 

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Next plan is to list it on some Euro sites. Bertone's are getting very scarce over there. No rush. Ample storage and rarity and price is just rising. May pull the trigger on resto anyway. CA offered a good price on pieces.
I think Lionel has the man for the job in Dallas.. I would do it in a heart beat. The down side on his projects are paint. He won't do that.
 

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I think Lionel has the man for the job in Dallas.. I would do it in a heart beat. The down side on his projects are paint. He won't do that.
Just hired a painter who will be painting all my cars.............

Bruce,

Italian car Fest in Dallas is tomorrow and you should make the drive north. Although, I don't know if I make the car show since I will be at the Mecum chasing a 1929 and 1938 Packard that will be auctioned on Saturday.

Lionel
 

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I am out of state playing for awhile. I will plan on a dive up for a look-see and estimate when I get back, when it cools off. I'm in no great rush to do anything but watch the grass grow and their prices rise. Will pursue listing in Europe. Easy to ship back RoRo. B

PS: there is as honest as I can give assessment of the car in the opening post, a Word document, "The Good, Bad and Ugly". I have a 60+ set of pics if this is not enough I can link you to.
 

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Bump. Several hits but no takers. It's better looking inside and outside and a good driver as-is and resto could be deferred. This is NOT a rust-free car but with all the folks looking and looking to strip and rebuild one, I thought I'd flog it again. I had considered pulling the ad but will make one last push before holding. $14.5k as-is, where is.
 

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Bruce, you have pics posted, or can you send, of the mentioned rust areas of concern? The pics at the link in the first post are more overall/general.
Thank you.
Andrew
 

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I guess I took them down when I sorta decided to keep it. Placing a bet on rarity and beauty. I'll put them back up and send a link tomorrow. Much of the lower 6" of skin, rockers (outer and middle), and some other bits will need replacing. And it's a 10 year old acrylic lacquer paint job with some orange peel. Eventually it deserves a proper full resto. On the plus side, it's pretty original and can be used as-is with routine maintenance. B
 

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Sale pending 1/29 PM, pending review of chassis pics, additional info provided, and purch. logistics. Still disseminating information if interested.

Add 1/30 - deposit received. It's funny. Six months ago I'd have had to pay someone (nearly) to take it. Now the phone is ringing off the hook with serious interest. And a full price offer with deposit today. What a difference 6 months makes. Are stepnoses the new big Alfa thing? Only 36,000 made. I'll probably be sorry I sold it.
 

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Ooops, no sale afterall

My buyer's car sale deal fell through so he tilted me in turn. Deposit refunded. The car is again available. Shortly after the PB sent a deposit, 5 other lads showed good interest and I have pinged them, and 3 of them have been provided with more info.

I have several things to share besides the ABB posted info above (a link of outside photos and 2 documents). The additional items to share upon request are:
1. A link to the chassis and details photoset on Google+: LINK

If you are still interested after reviewing them, send me an e-mail and I will send you:
2. A quote from Classic Alfa on the parts projected to be needed.
3. My Excel estimate sheet
4. My Maintenance and Additions log

I continue to fettle the car, drive and enjoy it regularly and ruminate on what to do. The Alfa and stepnose tide is rising. A classic for sure. Act now.
 

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