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OK, So either we have a scam here, or someone who has really messed up their Ebay ads.

These three auctions are all from the same person.

The one for the '57 and the '61 Spiders each list the same VIN, (from the '57).
The '62 ad shows a picture of the '57 VIN.
The Sprint shows a picture of the '62 Spider engine.
That engine appears to be a 750 Veloce engine, but I could be wrong on that.
The '62 Spider and the Sprint list them as having a 6 cyl engine, a 5 speed and front wheel drive.
The VIN listed for the Sprint is a VIN for a '61 Spider.

I have no idea how anyone could make so many mistakes in 3 auctions!

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alfa-Romeo-Other-N-A-1962-alfa-romeo-giulietta-spider-101-series-/181568866821?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2a46590a05&item=181568866821&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
 

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The bad guys have well and truly discovered niche and specialist cars. I have followed the trail of two 101 Spiders recently via Car and Classic that both turned out to be scams. The biggest clue is that they are too cheap and the seller looks to get you to put a holding deposit on it before viewing.

Last week I was sure I had found a bargain '63 Giulia Spider because it was advertised on the site of a legitimate classic car dealer in the UK. However the following day I discovered they were the victim of identity theft and the telephone number had been changed.

It's the old adage - if something looks too good to be true...
 

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Alfas on eBay from Mag.carta

Relax Everyone
For once, it's NOT a scam. This is one of my customers who acquired too many cars in the early 2000's. He is trying to sell off some of them to finance the restoration of the ones he's keeping. The listings may be a bit confusing. I'm going over to see the cars this coming week and will help him straighten out the listing.
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Looks like he's got a boat load of cars.
 

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Thanks Keith. With the current state of the Alfa market, there's a whole lot of "funny stuff" going on out there. Your customer might be well advised to pull his listings 'till you get the issue straightened out, as it WILL effect his reputation as a seller. None of us want that. Working on the BB, the moderators try to catch all these issues and help the honest sellers out, but it's impossible for us to fix it all, and we count on our sharp eyed readers like skiwalk to point out glaring errors to moderators. Thanks to you both.
 

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I must admit, I did not think it was a scam, however, they did do an extremely poor job of trying to sell the cars.

I do agree with Gordon that he would be much better off starting over and fixing all of the mistakes. Also better pictures will help a lot too.

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For anyone interested in the purple Sprint, I had a phone conversation and email exchange with the original owner when he was selling it in 2002. Here are some details he gave me.
First he said it was a Veloce. Originally red with red/grey interior.
60K miles
Chassis AR159104
Engine AR00106*02360 with 1400 kit and a repairable hole in the block.
Last driven in the late seventies.
Paint job copied from the cover of a car magazine.

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Alfas on eBay from Mag.carta

Thanks All
Mag.carta has decided not to pull the eBay auctions for several reasons.

-There are over 1000 hits and about 100 watchers on each of the sales.
-He is earnestly trying to answer all questions and correct the errors in the current sales.
-He feels that to pull them off will look worse than to correct the errors.

Thanks Doug for your memory of the purple Sprint. That's the car that I like best myself. If it doesn't sell, I may buy it myself.

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These are all nice cars Keith, and the owner is to be thanked for not allowing them to become parts or crusher cars. You have the BB members thanks for your efforts in correcting the listings. As you and I know, these cars will sell to Alfa lovers when correctly represented.
(I like the purple Sprint too. You should buy it.)
 

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Sprint Veloce

For anyone interested in the purple Sprint, I had a phone conversation and email exchange with the original owner when he was selling it in 2002. Here are some details he gave me.
First he said it was a Veloce. Originally red with red/grey interior.
60K miles
Chassis AR159104
Engine AR00106*02360 with 1400 kit and a repairable hole in the block.
Last driven in the late seventies.
Paint job copied from the cover of a car magazine.

Doug
This is indeed a Veloce, the "E" is visible on the pics of the chassis number! So the chassis number should be corrected to ARE 159104.
This makes it a '61 Sprint Veloce, one of only 884 produced, according to our trusted friend , Fusi.
 

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My only concern with the cars listed is that I would bet he bought them back in the days when you could get such project cars for relatively little dosh, but now given they are seen to be so collectible, that the prices being asked (buy now prices) are so expensive that they are priced out of the market for most enthusiasts. The restoration costs and therefore ultimate values/prices for such cars are now so high.

A pity, as such cars are now way beyond means for people like myself. Oh well at least I have a giulia, which at least was affordable. Even Duettos are so expensive now.
 

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My only concern with the cars listed is that I would bet he bought them back in the days when you could get such project cars for relatively little dosh, but now given they are seen to be so collectible, that the prices being asked (buy now prices) are so expensive that they are priced out of the market for most enthusiasts. The restoration costs and therefore ultimate values/prices for such cars are now so high.

A pity, as such cars are now way beyond means for people like myself. Oh well at least I have a giulia, which at least was affordable. Even Duettos are so expensive now.
Once it was found to be a Veloce, the "Buy It Now" price increased from $25K to $35K. It's a nice project for someone to restore. I wonder if the new owner will keep it purple?
 

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I have almost completed restoring my 1961 Sprint Veloce. I started to collect parts nearly forty years ago and will probably have spent 40K in restoration costs. The body had very few rusted areas, but body work and paint are not cheap. This Veloce on eBay could cost more to restore than my SV because of engine damage, but the car is still worth more than the restoration costs.
 

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Purple Sprint is back, as belitalia has noted. Link is attached.
 
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