So one can deduce that changing the amount of greenhouse gas in our atmosphere would have an affect on this radiative forcing. And yes if we listened to people like Richard Branson and invented a device to remove CO2 from our atmosphere we would be in big trouble. Again as I said in my previous post, it's all about the correct balance. I'm sure Richard, with his competition (https://www.virginearth.com/the-prize/), does not actually want to remove all CO2, I hope ...https://judithcurry.com/2013/09/20/co2-control-knob-fallacy/ said:From the perspective of comparative planetology, I think that Lacis makes a plausible argument, from which I infer that without CO2 in the atmosphere, the Earth’s climate would more closely resemble the climate of its moon rather than the current Earth’s climate. For reference, the surface temperature of the moon can swing between -150°C during the night and 120°C during the day. (pay attention, greenhouse effect deniers).
I have answered that CO2 helps set the earth's climate, and note Judith's comment re greenhouse effect. I think we can all agree, hopefully, about the greenhouse effect.https://roadtoparis.info/top-list/judith-curry/ said:Judith Curry is fast becoming the go-to scientist favoured by the more sceptical ends of the climate debate, though she is more than capable of making a name for herself in her own right.
No, there's a good chance that's real. The oil and gas industry has known about this for decades. They're all publicly traded companies so they have to disclose every year the risks they see to their business. Global warming is near the top of the list for all of them every year. They're businesses in business to make money, so they can't afford to hold religious views or stick their heads in the sand. They have to deal with reality head-on.but who knows it might be fake as from a climate news site. Supposedly a 1982 Exxon report.
Yes I try to stop, I do ... but I worry that some here think that just because they are old car enthusiast they have to be climate change deniers. Nobody, in our near future, is going to come to your house and take your treasured Alfa away.https://www.windows2universe.org/earth/Atmosphere/overview.html said:The atmosphere is a mixture of nitrogen (78%), oxygen (21%), and other gases (1%) that surrounds Earth. High above the planet, the atmosphere becomes thinner until it gradually reaches space. It is divided into five layers. Most of the weather and clouds are found in the first layer.
The atmosphere is an important part of what makes Earth livable. It blocks some of the Sun's dangerous rays from reaching Earth. It traps heat, making Earth a comfortable temperature. And the oxygen within our atmosphere is essential for life.
They can test how atoms react in laboratories ...https://www.windows2universe.org/earth/climate/cli_greengas.html said:Even though only a tiny amount of the gases in Earth’s atmosphere are greenhouse gases, they have a huge effect on climate.
There are several different types of greenhouse gases. The major ones are carbon dioxide, water vapor, methane, and nitrous oxide. All of these have molecules with three or more atoms. The atoms are held together loosely enough that they vibrate when they absorb heat. Eventually, the vibrating molecule will release the radiation. The radiation will likely be absorbed by another greenhouse gas molecule. This process, which keeps heat near the Earth’s surface, is called the greenhouse effect.
Almost all of the other gases in Earth’s atmosphere are nitrogen and oxygen. The two atoms in these molecules are bound together tightly and unable to vibrate, so they cannot absorb heat and contribute to the greenhouse effect.
And there are some stats from NASA in there ... but they tell fibs too ...https://medium.com/@budwilliams/co2-is-an-insulating-gas-it-absorbs-infrared-heat-photons-bc258c9bad47 said:CO2 is an insulating gas. It absorbs Infrared heat photons.
When I completed my degree in Geophysics, lecturers reviewed two theories. One was that ice ages were due to lots of precipitation, because somehow the Arctic Ocean was open and the continental masses were frozen.Just close your eyes and click your heals together and just keep repeating "there's no place like home, there's no place like home". Should do the trick!
Rubbish. As I live down here where the hole is, it is 100% true.We have already learnt what chloroflurocarbon did to our atmosphere re ozone layer ...
Well, thanks for providing another example of how some are fooled again and again by snake oil salesman and others who make a living from pushing panic.
There was no hole in the ozone. Just another natural cycle.