[Raimondo]

Gang,

I found this post from Gordon,from back in '06 and I could really use a photo of an assembled, though not yet installed, 1600 Giulia Veloce engine with the dipstick support bracket in place to see how everything fits together.

"Discussion Starter • #1 • Nov 21, 2006 (Edited)

WTB /1600 Giulia Veloce dipstick support bracket

WTB; Looking for a dipstick support bracket for a 1600 Giulia Veloce, 1965.
Bracket goes between the bottom of the Weber mount bolt and the clamp around the dipstick housing. P.N.1315.10.145, as seen on Tav.3 of the addendum in the parts book. My spare, I use for a pattern, "vanished" . Thanks, Gordon Raymond"

Thanks so much and Merry Christmas!

Ray

 

[Gordon Raymond]

Gee Ray... Just make this stuff! It's not hard! The hard part is getting the TWO bends in the Veloce tube correct! Photo below shows correct tube end and arm to manifold correct width. Both are the same.

 

[Raimondo]

Gordon,

All I was wanting was a photo of how everything was supposed to fit together.
This request was motivated by a recent discussion on the 750-101 Group in which someone was asking how all of these parts were attached to the engine.

Ray

 

[Gordon Raymond]

My last picture shows this Ray. This is 64-65 1600 Veloce. 750 is completely different, 101-1300 about the same as 1600.

 

[Raimondo]

Great photo, Gordon. I knew you would have just the one I/we needed!

BTW-Has that block been painted?

Thanks, again

Ray

 

[Gordon Raymond]

No. It was NOS un-numbered, with 40+ years of storage. I spent a long time cleaning it. Found it at a garage sale. It was being used as a door stop.

 

[Raimondo]

Who in the world uses an NOS un-numbered Alfa bkock as a doorstop?!

Regardless, whatever means you used, it looks fabulous!

Ray

 

[ubach]

My last picture shows this Ray. This is 64-65 1600 Veloce. 750 is completely different, 101-1300 about the same as 1600.

Interesting discussion.
So what does a 750 dipstick bracket look like?
Ulf

 

[Gordon Raymond]

The 750 bracket fits under the 750 manifold, a different shape and length. I do not have one to photo. BB member Dave Brohan will have one as will others that specialize in 750 Veloce restorations.

 

[alfasprinty]

Hi Ulf and Gordon,


I would think that the normal 750 engines didn't have a bracket. At least I couldn't find it anywhere in catalogs, pictures, manuals ...
Btw, the early 750 normal engines had a very short tube that certainly didn't need a bracket.

The 750 Veloce bracket is also not listed in the catalogs although it must have existed.
As far as I know, it can only be noticed on the picture of the Veloce engine in the Anselmi Giulietta book (p 121) .
Other Veloce engine pictures doesn't show the bracket.
Was it on every 750 Veloce engine, or maybe only on the later 750 Veloces ?



There is also a drawing of the bracket in the shop manual, see picture below. Definitely in the 40 DCO3 carb periode .

Why would the Giulia SS catalog still show a 750 number (1315.10.145) for the bracket used on the Giulia SS ?

Gordon, my guess is that there was only one bracket # 1315.10.145 for all the Veloces but I think that it was the clamp on the tube (1315.10.144) that has changed to 1315.10.177 during the time.
That change-over was made after engine 1315.30945, then intermittently up to engine 1315.30979 and definitely from engine 1315.31080 on, this happended simultaneously with Alfa abandoning the threaded tube for the dipstick.

Here below a picture from the drawing in the 101-1600 catalog.
You also can see that the 101-1600 Sprint and Spider received another bracket ( with a 101.12 numbering)
Could it be that their tube had a welded support for the bracket instead of a clamp ?

Rgds,

Thierry

 

[Gordon Raymond]

The 750 tubes screwed into a threaded hole in the block. As such it would seem logical they were straight tubes rather than the bent Veloce tubes. If a nut locked it in place inside the block, no upper bracket would be needed, BUT I do not know this! The 101-1300/1600 tube end was split and bent out of round a bit to somewhat hold it in the hole without too much oil mess. The bend for access between Weber bottom and distributor required the bend and bracket to hold it in position. I do know that.